Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Folding Bikes Discuss the unique features and issues of folding bikes. Also a great place to learn what folding bike will work best for your needs.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-12-10, 05:44 PM   #1
bdi121
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 108
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Brompton: Mounting adaptor for carrier block

Could any members suggest where I can find , online, a mounting adaptor on top of the existing Brompton carrier block ?



Available Brompton bags are too big for my needs. I'd like to clip on the block a small/narrow bag.

There is a German online store which offer an adaptor to mount on top of the existing Brompton block. I could no longer find the thread where a member did mention this site.

Or better, any idea on making a custom made adaptor myself ? Thanks.
bdi121 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-10, 09:18 PM   #2
>>ECB<<
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 69
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bdi121 View Post
Could any members suggest where I can find , online, a mounting adaptor on top of the existing Brompton carrier block ?



Available Brompton bags are too big for my needs. I'd like to clip on the block a small/narrow bag.

There is a German online store which offer an adaptor to mount on top of the existing Brompton block. I could no longer find the thread where a member did mention this site.

Or better, any idea on making a custom made adaptor myself ? Thanks.
It would probably be a lot simpler if you could go with a pre-existing option.

Out of curiosity, how big/small a bag are you looking for? The Carradice Original, Brompton C, and Brompton S bags are 25, 22 and 20 L, respectively. Are those all too large for what you've got in mind?

ECB
>>ECB<< is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-10, 09:57 PM   #3
bdi121
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 108
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
ECB, thanks for the suggestion. I did look at the Carradice and the Brompton as you've suggested but they too wide at 420mm( 16'' ) . I prefer half that width @ 210mm ( 8" ) or narrower.

I have the " folding basket set" . . . and it's great for the groceries. But I need an alternative smaller bag sometimes. I'm looking for a narrow width rather than small capacity.

Last edited by bdi121; 02-12-10 at 10:04 PM.
bdi121 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-10, 03:29 AM   #4
brommie
Senior Member
 
brommie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Bikes: Brompton T6, Koga Miyata Distance, Airnimal Joey
Posts: 155
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Here you can find a mounting adaptor, and it works great.
http://www.bromptonauten.de/zubehoer2.html
Want see it in practice? Take a look at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/plooifiets/3596332478/
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/plooifiets/3439477760/
to see the difference, you can take a look at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/plooifiets/4044052948/
brommie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-10, 04:27 AM   #5
bdi121
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 108
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
YEESSS !.... Thanks a million , Brommie. You must be the one that posted the thread I was looking for.

I really like those little front carrier you have on those pictures. That's what I'm looking for.

Do you recommend any other useful carrier ? The one with the plastic map cover look very handy for touring/sightseeing.
bdi121 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-10, 10:19 AM   #6
brommie
Senior Member
 
brommie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Bikes: Brompton T6, Koga Miyata Distance, Airnimal Joey
Posts: 155
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The one with the plastic map cover is from AGU. It came with a bike my father once bought. He didn't use it.
It's a quite common bag but useful for light touring.
With the adaptor all bags with the KlickFix adaptor fit.
brommie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-12, 03:29 PM   #7
badmother
Senior Member
 
badmother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 3,126
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Bump.

Some great solutions to use luggage for small wheels showed up in this thread: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...n-disassembled.

Edit: More here on this German site: http://www.bromptonauten.de/phorum3/read.php?1,13465

the links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5V_voBym14&feature

http://www.flickr.com/photos/folding...7626706717434/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/folding...7626706717434/

http://www.bromptonauten.de/zubehoer2.html

Last edited by badmother; 01-10-12 at 03:57 PM.
badmother is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-12, 04:19 PM   #8
jerrysimon
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Badmother interesting. As you know from other post this is what I did to mount the Brompton fitting onto a non Brompton bike.






Though links (youtube) show a bespoke part. Mine is a DIY solution but interestingly its similar in the way it attaches to the head tube. I had not seen that bespoke part before I designed mine. With mine you just need a stock Brompton block which you then modify using three jubilee clips to attach it. Wrapped in black tape to make it look less industrial

Regards

Jerry

Last edited by jerrysimon; 01-10-12 at 04:24 PM.
jerrysimon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-12, 04:44 PM   #9
badmother
Senior Member
 
badmother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 3,126
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Same forum. Here somebody found a way to atatch the front part of a clickfix handlebar mount to hang a bag like you would hang a Carradice saddlebag.

http://www.bromptonauten.de/phorum3/read.php?1,9128

In the same thread somebody mounted the clickfix caddy (for mounting on stem or seatpost). To this one is atached a homemade "adaptor" and the Brompton luggage block mounted to that one again. This way you can hang a light brompton bag from the seatpost.

A more elegant solution was posted in the Yahoo Brompton group (I think that is where I found it). Just hanging a Brompton bag w frame from the two loops (made for hanging saddlebags) on the seat. Two leather straps was used- one trough each loop in the saddle and trough the frame (handle I think) of the bag. Not ment for heavy bag on long trips, more like when you use the bike as a lugage trolly. I mus look for the link for that one.

Edit: Good thing about that system is that you can park the bike (rear end under bike) with both bags still atached. This is much more complicated if you use the rackpack). I guess the seatpost could be lowered to make it more stable to roll it like that but it is doable on flat surface.

Last edited by badmother; 01-10-12 at 05:02 PM.
badmother is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-12, 04:53 PM   #10
badmother
Senior Member
 
badmother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 3,126
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Jerrysimon: Thank you! I was hoping for peopel to post pictures of such solutions here so we could find most of it in one place. I am going to post some pictures over the next few days on things I have done about luggage and plans I have.

I think it should be possible to start with a brompton frame and butcher it and use mainly the plastic piece that is atatched to the lugageblock and then atatch parts of a clickfix handlebar mount to that. Got the stuff in the house so I am going to post some more on luggage soon.

Anyone else?
badmother is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-12, 05:24 PM   #11
badmother
Senior Member
 
badmother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 3,126
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
And then the backpack solution:

http://vimeo.com/33004179
badmother is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-12, 06:22 PM   #12
badmother
Senior Member
 
badmother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 3,126
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Somebody in the Yahoo Brompton group cut a B bag frame down to fit a Ortlieb pannier (mounted the pannier much like you do on a rear rack). The frame was made narrower first so that it had the same width as the Ortlieb pannier. I fear that you need to be a member and logged in to see the pictures:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brompt...02377/pic/list
badmother is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-12, 06:34 PM   #13
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 7
Posts: 18,781
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 214 Post(s)
Rixen and Kaul parts 0273S/KT 814.. was the part numbers
gleaned from seeing this thing before .. but no US sources ,
Just .. Japan and Germany

From the steel carrier bag frame type fit, onto the carrier block,
instead of the lighter nylon and aluminum one, sold now..

people have drilled out the PoP rivets and narrowed down the newer bag frames
and modified them to use an Ortlieb Back roller bag as a waterproof touring bag..
that link above

one could further narrow them and use a front bag too.

Last edited by fietsbob; 01-10-12 at 06:38 PM.
fietsbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-12, 01:40 AM   #14
jerrysimon
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
This is a great thread. I had looked for this type of info before and had no idea people had come up with so many alternatives for carrying different luggage on the front of small wheeled bikes.

Regards

Jerry
jerrysimon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-12, 02:45 AM   #15
M.W.
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 96
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Would the 7-litre Mini O-Bag not work?

http://www.brompton.co.uk/explorer/accessories/?bp=9
M.W. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-12, 03:55 AM   #16
badmother
Senior Member
 
badmother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 3,126
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by M.W. View Post
Would the 7-litre Mini O-Bag not work?

http://www.brompton.co.uk/explorer/accessories/?bp=9
For sure, but we got that option not long ago and some some peopel would refuse to pay for it. I buy two or three of each for the bromptons so I buy what we really need or want and look for alternatives if I can.

Some peopel have DIY as a lifestyle choice. Do it yourself if you can. I guess I am one of those.

For me the main reason is I am fed up with having so many different bags lying around the house becouse each one is really only good for one thing. A Ortlieb pannier can also be used as a pannier on another bike. The person who did the pannier ride a yellow and black B. He bought a yellow & black pannier to use with the bike.

I sometimes grab a bag and go. I remember I had my wallet and my multitool the last time i rode a bike so it is all good. Then I need the multitool or some money and realise I had a different bag and a different bike the last time.. Then I want to go somewhere by car and do not want to swap all my stuff to a different bag, and then again to ride in the afternoon.

If I meet my son after school and we decide to swap bikes I want my bag to fit on his bike and his bag on mine. Or maybe I just want to take some of his load.

Then if you go touring on your bike You`ll find (at least if you are a compulsive DIY`er) that you need to change something before the next trip..
badmother is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-12, 04:56 AM   #17
badmother
Senior Member
 
badmother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 3,126
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Rixen and Kaul parts 0273S/KT 814.. was the part numbers
gleaned from seeing this thing before .. but no US sources ,
Just .. Japan and Germany

From the steel carrier bag frame type fit, onto the carrier block,
instead of the lighter nylon and aluminum one, sold now..

people have drilled out the PoP rivets and narrowed down the newer bag frames
and modified them to use an Ortlieb Back roller bag as a waterproof touring bag..
that link above

one could further narrow them and use a front bag too.
You say no US sources, but also where I live I can not get them locally and trying to locate a dealer and then travel there would be expensive. I buy them online from abroad, mainly UK.

A B carryer block could be altered to fit most bags yes. But that would add the price of the block to the price of each bag plus the bag could only be used on a bike with a B carrier block. If you turn the B frame into a adapter (or buy a adaptor if you can) you can use that bag on bikes with a clickfix adaptor installed OR bikes (not only B`s as we have seen on several postings) w a B lugage block fitted.
badmother is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-12, 07:04 AM   #18
bendembroski
My legs hurt
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Farther behind you than I'd like to be
Bikes: Vaya, Brompton, '73 Schwinn Super Sport, Cresswell Fold-it, '81 Trek 610
Posts: 683
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrysimon View Post
Badmother interesting. As you know from other post this is what I did to mount the Brompton fitting onto a non Brompton bike.

Though links (youtube) show a bespoke part. Mine is a DIY solution but interestingly its similar in the way it attaches to the head tube. I had not seen that bespoke part before I designed mine. With mine you just need a stock Brompton block which you then modify using three jubilee clips to attach it. Wrapped in black tape to make it look less industrial

Regards

Jerry
Jerry, I'm about to do the same hack for my Cresswell. What is the function of the top jubilee clip?
bendembroski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-12, 07:25 AM   #19
jerrysimon
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bendembroski View Post
Jerry, I'm about to do the same hack for my Cresswell. What is the function of the top jubilee clip?
Good question lol

I am not sure it is needed to be honest. In my nature to be over kill when it comes to engineering I guess

I do however think its worth fitting the bottom one, as it helps take the load on the luggage blog with a heavy ladened bag. That is where I think my solution scores over the one that just has the two clips going around the bracket and attaching to the head tube. Mine has been rock solid for over a year and sometimes I carry eight pints of milk and couple of bottles of cider/wine with not problems.

Next time I do some work to the bike I may remove the top jubilee clip. Thanks for making me think about it

PS When you cut the slots for the middle clip make sure you get them as near to the flat face inside the block as you can. Also once the clip is inserted try and push the part inside as flat against the flat surface as you can. The mounting block itself is made from quite dense material and cutting these slots does not seem to weaken it at all. I also found that the semi circle round profile on the back of the block fitted my head tube diameter really well. That may not be the same with all head tube sizes/diameters. Oh and finally I think I had to trim the release lever a little on the back as it fowled the jubliee clip when I pushed it to release the bag.

Regards

Jerry

Last edited by jerrysimon; 01-11-12 at 07:40 AM.
jerrysimon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-12, 01:29 PM   #20
M.W.
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 96
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by badmother View Post
For sure, but we got that option not long ago and some some peopel would refuse to pay for it. I buy two or three of each for the bromptons so I buy what we really need or want and look for alternatives if I can.

Some peopel have DIY as a lifestyle choice. Do it yourself if you can. I guess I am one of those.

For me the main reason is I am fed up with having so many different bags lying around the house becouse each one is really only good for one thing. A Ortlieb pannier can also be used as a pannier on another bike. The person who did the pannier ride a yellow and black B. He bought a yellow & black pannier to use with the bike.

I sometimes grab a bag and go. I remember I had my wallet and my multitool the last time i rode a bike so it is all good. Then I need the multitool or some money and realise I had a different bag and a different bike the last time.. Then I want to go somewhere by car and do not want to swap all my stuff to a different bag, and then again to ride in the afternoon.

If I meet my son after school and we decide to swap bikes I want my bag to fit on his bike and his bag on mine. Or maybe I just want to take some of his load.

Then if you go touring on your bike You`ll find (at least if you are a compulsive DIY`er) that you need to change something before the next trip..
Oh, I fully get the DIY side of things. I was just suggesting it because the OP had said that the available bags were too big for their needs.

And I just now noticed that this thread started in Feb, 2010. Nevermind.
M.W. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-12, 02:26 PM   #21
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 7
Posts: 18,781
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 214 Post(s)
Email Klick Fix/Rixen and Kaul in Germany and see what they suggest..

check back , of course..
fietsbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-12, 08:05 AM   #22
badmother
Senior Member
 
badmother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 3,126
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
More luggage stuff: Found this in a British forum. Somebody mounted a B carryer block on a 20" folder and also made a "frame" for a bag out of oak wood: http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=53284.0
badmother is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-12, 11:51 AM   #23
badmother
Senior Member
 
badmother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 3,126
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Somebody made a system (like on a bag frame) to fit a big bin to the front of a Brompton: http://www.instructables.com/id/Fron...lding-bicycle/
badmother is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-12, 12:02 PM   #24
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 7
Posts: 18,781
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 214 Post(s)
that bin kludge looks like it only stays on with the weight of the thing ,
no catch to use the part of the frame clip included for the purpose..
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/brompton-...lat-prod13498/


the Bag Frame itself is available separately "20.00"

taller, M bar
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/brompton-...qfcfa-prod647/
shorter S bar
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/brompton-...a-s-prod13499/

Last edited by fietsbob; 01-24-12 at 12:08 PM.
fietsbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-12, 03:31 AM   #25
badmother
Senior Member
 
badmother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 3,126
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
that bin kludge looks like it only stays on with the weight of the thing ,
no catch to use the part of the frame clip included for the purpose..
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/brompton-...lat-prod13498/

the Bag Frame itself is available separately "20.00"

taller, M bar
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/brompton-...qfcfa-prod647/
shorter S bar
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/brompton-...a-s-prod13499/
I am not trying to say this is a great solution, just collecting what has been done. If you take the time to read the person who did it say it is not superstrong.
badmother is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:50 AM.