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    What's your experience in riding folders in New York City ?

    Do members recommend bringing your own folder to NYC or rent a bike ? What's your impression riding in NYC ?

    I'll be in NYC in August and wonder is it worthwhile to bring my folder with me from overseas or rent a bike when I get there ?

    I'm interested to hear from your experience.

    [ Edit: My sincere apology, guys. I didn't mean to stir things up. Perhaps I should be more specific.

    This is my first time traveling overseas with a folder and NYC happen to be the destination, nothing personal, it could be anywhere. I'll DEFINITELY ride in NYC . I wonder if it's easier to rent a full size bike in NYC rather than dealing with custom people and airlines from both side of the countries. And ,perhaps, the local riding etiquette I should be aware of.

    I prefer my own folder because of the convenience, no need to return the bike each day and the familiarity of my own bike/seat. ]
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdi121 View Post
    Do members recommend bringing your own folder to NYC or rent a bike ? What's your impression riding in NYC ?

    I'll be in NYC in August and wonder is it worthwhile to bring my folder with me from overseas or rent a bike when I get there ?

    I'm interested to hear from your experience.
    Why do you think riding a bicycle in NYC will be any different than riding a bike in say, CA or Missouri? Do you expect the gravity to be stronger here, or the oxygen levels different? The wheels are still round the last time I checked...

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    Quote Originally Posted by prtyich View Post
    Why do you think riding a bicycle in NYC will be any different than riding a bike in say, CA or Missouri? Do you expect the gravity to be stronger here, or the oxygen levels different? The wheels are still round the last time I checked...
    ^^^^
    This is the attitude that gives New Yorkers a reputation for rudeness.
    Sheesh!

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    I have ridden extrnsively in NYC, both on folders and on standard bicycles. wider tires are helpful on streets, any thing on westside bike trail. there are bike lanes on many streets, but some skill is needed. The folder would allow you to take public transportation combines with cycling. Rentals are avalable
    at many locations. about $25-$35/hr. NYC has cycling info on the web. Google NYC bicycling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SesameCrunch View Post
    ^^^^
    This is the attitude that gives New Yorkers a reputation for rudeness.
    Sheesh!
    Let's go back to the OPs question: "what is your experience of riding a bike in NYC"?

    Huh? WTF does that mean? NYC is huge, is broken into 5 boros, and has 8 million people...

    Experience, as to what? Driving on the streets, in Central park, etc. A thoughtful person would have asked a more sensible question. My posts like in the Brompton thread are long not because I like wasting people's time, but because I want people on an internet forum to UNDERSTAND what it is that I am asking.

    The OP asks multiple questions such as whether it is better rent - rent what? A bike, a folder, recumbant? Did they do ANY research before asking this question? There are a million places in the city to rent a bicylce, but WHAT KIND of bike, for how long, etc.?

    Maybe I got on the wrong side of the bed this morning, but many forums don't allow OPs like this one...they need to be more specific and well-thought out. I responded sarcastically because I felt the OP was being perhaps too lazy to research before posting it.

    I spent 3 hours reading through the Brompton website, and 2 more on the general WWW yesterday before posting my thread, is 15 minutes of web/google searching too much to ask before coming up with a lame OP like "how is it riding a bicycle in NYC"?

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    Riding in NYC is great. The cars are trapped in the grid lock so you get to ride around them, taunt them, and generally harass them. There's nothing like banging on some cab driver's hood while cursing him out for cutting you off and then riding off while he remains stuck like a fly on paper. It's the fastest, cheapest way to get around and it's a lot of fun.

    People that think we're rude just don't understand the NY culture. Just think of it as a friendly competition to have your opinion counted in the sea of millions. This is the perspective I believe makes NY a cosmopolitan city...the realization of the sheer number of other people there are in the world and what it takes to not be rendered irrelevant by it.

    As far as the rental thing, I'm not sure you'll find it convenient as most tourists use the subway or cabs. Plus there's nothing like riding your own bike which you've spent countless hours adjusting to your own body and if your folder is fairly compact it will be a boon to take it inside your hotel, museums...is this trip for business or pleasure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herb View Post
    I have ridden extrnsively in NYC, both on folders and on standard bicycles. wider tires are helpful on streets, any thing on westside bike trail. there are bike lanes on many streets, but some skill is needed. The folder would allow you to take public transportation combines with cycling. Rentals are avalable
    at many locations. about $25-$35/hr. NYC has cycling info on the web. Google NYC bicycling.
    Hope this helps
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    Thanks Herb.

    To the OP, wow, what a novel concept, google searching...

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    I hear traffic is a good place to practice your trials bike skills.

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    There are many places to rent bikes in NYC. I think a few even do biking tours. Check out this page:

    http://nyccentury.org/bike_rental

    As pointed out by others, there are many bike lanes. It's generally safer to stick to them. See the bike lane maps here:

    http://www.nycbikemaps.com/
    http://www.ridethecity.com/

    Unless your bike is equipped with suspensions I'd suggest you to use more durable tires that's not too narrow, such as the Marathon series. The traffic can be crazy at times, but as long as you ride carefully you should be fine. Oh, and try not to bring your bike onto subway cars during rush hours. People would not appreciate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prtyich View Post
    Why do you think riding a bicycle in NYC will be any different than riding a bike in say, CA or Missouri? Do you expect the gravity to be stronger here, or the oxygen levels different? The wheels are still round the last time I checked...
    Since when are CA and Missouri overseas?

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    Bring your folder, that's a total no-brainer!

    I ride my folding bike 5 miles through Manhattan rush hour traffic every work day, and it's a total blast. The bike is the fastest way to get around, unless you happen to have a direct express subway.

    I occasionally ride in Queens or Brooklyn, and I guess I don't like them quite as well. There's something about Manhattan due to the outrageous cost of parking &c that makes ordinary car owners unwilling to drive there; most of the drivers are professional drivers and, therefore, pretty good at it. You have to watch out for the police, though; they are distinctly NOT professional drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prtyich View Post
    let's go back to the ops question: "what is your experience of riding a bike in nyc"?

    Huh? Wtf does that mean? Nyc is huge, is broken into 5 boros, and has 8 million people...

    Experience, as to what? Driving on the streets, in central park, etc. A thoughtful person would have asked a more sensible question. My posts like in the brompton thread are long not because i like wasting people's time, but because i want people on an internet forum to understand what it is that i am asking.

    The op asks multiple questions such as whether it is better rent - rent what? A bike, a folder, recumbant? Did they do any research before asking this question? There are a million places in the city to rent a bicylce, but what kind of bike, for how long, etc.?

    Maybe i got on the wrong side of the bed this morning, but many forums don't allow ops like this one...they need to be more specific and well-thought out. I responded sarcastically because i felt the op was being perhaps too lazy to research before posting it.

    I spent 3 hours reading through the brompton website, and 2 more on the general www yesterday before posting my thread, is 15 minutes of web/google searching too much to ask before coming up with a lame op like "how is it riding a bicycle in nyc"?
    Q E D ......

    Thank you for proving my point - again...

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    My sincere apology, guys. I didn't mean to stir things up. Perhaps I should be more specific.

    This is my first time traveling overseas with a folder and NYC happen to be the destination, nothing personal, it could be anywhere. I'll DEFINITELY ride in NYC . I wonder if it's easier to rent a full size bike in NYC rather than dealing with custom people and airlines from both side of the countries. And ,perhaps, the local riding etiquette I should be aware of.

    I prefer my own folder because of the convenience, no need to return the bike each day and the familiarity of my own bike/seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwd-bwd View Post
    As pointed out by others, there are many bike lanes. It's generally safer to stick to them.
    It is? There's almost no consistency between the various bike lane systems in use and some of them even go the wrong way! I use them if I happen to be riding alongside one, but otherwise I avoid them. The city is chaotic enough and additional confusion does not facilitate safety.

    Quote Originally Posted by bdi121 View Post
    the local riding etiquette I should be aware of.
    Don't take any **** from anybody. Live by those words and you'll fit right in!

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    Man, you people crack me up. Y'all would last 5 minutes in this town.

    bdi121: My recommendation is as follows. If you are going to be anywhere for less than a week, taking a folder on a plane is rarely worth it. Any bike, except a Brompton, will be a PITA to fit into a regulation suitcase; plus it ends up being an extra 50 pounds of kit to get to and from the airport. Even with careful packing your bike is likely to get abused.

    If you're going to be in a location for a week or more, and intend to cycle pretty much every day, it's probably worth it.

    If you are touring, and your folder is capable of touring, then it's probably worth it.

    Bike theft is also a pretty big issue, as it is in many major cities. Whether you bring the folder or rent, make sure you know how to properly secure your bike.

    Since NYC is great for walking and public transportation, I'd say rent a bike 2 or 3 days, and use your feet the rest of the time.

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    Second what Bacciagalupe said.

    Chuck: I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment that bike lane "does not facilitate safety." Do a Google search and you'll find numerous research papers proving the positive safety effects of bike lanes. In NYC, the number of cyclist injuries and fatalities have been trending down over the years while the number of bikers trending up. The city's bike lane building efforts just might have something to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herb View Post
    .... Rentals are avalable
    at many locations. about $25-$35/hr....

    Yipes! You'd be better off buying a used bike than renting one for a couple of hours!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe View Post

    Since NYC is great for walking and public transportation, I'd say rent a bike 2 or 3 days, and use your feet the rest of the time.
    Thanks , Bacciagalupe. I'll consider your suggestion seriously. But nothing feels better than riding your own bike though.

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    prtyich said: "is 15 minutes of web/google searching too much to ask before coming up with a lame OP like "how is it riding a bicycle in NYC"?

    The original post asked "What's your experience riding folders in NYC?" It was asking others for opinions, not for you to shoot your sarcasm off. You've had the benefit of a heap of free advice on here from other people, about time you started responding in a like manner. If you have nothing to contribute, other than bile, then don't. You protest too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snafu21 View Post
    prtyich said: "is 15 minutes of web/google searching too much to ask before coming up with a lame OP like "how is it riding a bicycle in NYC"?

    The original post asked "What's your experience riding folders in NYC?" It was asking others for opinions, not for you to shoot your sarcasm off. You've had the benefit of a heap of free advice on here from other people, about time you started responding in a like manner. If you have nothing to contribute, other than bile, then don't. You protest too much.
    +1

    I would recomend having a laugh "with" people. Its easy to be sarcastic in a negative way.
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    I ride around Manhattan on both a folder and a road bike. If you have already worked out that bringing the folding bike is within your travel ability, why not? Of course, I don't know what your goal for having a bike is.

    Do you just want to get in some riding time while you are here? If so you might be better off renting, though I can't say I have a grasp on rental prices here. It

    If you want to get around town on your bike, you might be better off with the public transportation. It is easy, fast, and ubiquitous. As someone who doesn't know NY it will get you lost less and you won't have to worry about securing or carrying your bike. If you insist on getting around NY by bike, bring a nice lock. A folder is great, but not everywhere is happy to let you drag them inside.

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    your first time overseas and your first time visiting NYC.
    sure you can bring your folder, ain't gonna talk you out of it.
    will you be alone or with other visitors?
    but I'd rather get lost in the subway than on a bicycle in NYC, especially in the outer boroughs or NJ.
    leave the folder at home, use that luggage space for all the stuff you'll be bringing back.
    the folder is just one more thing to bring. rent a bike, it's cheap, I've checked the Bike And Roll site
    it's $39 and up per day and on some days it's free, in 2009. can not find the free schedule for 2010.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snafu21 View Post
    prtyich said: "is 15 minutes of web/google searching too much to ask before coming up with a lame OP like "how is it riding a bicycle in NYC"?

    The original post asked "What's your experience riding folders in NYC?" It was asking others for opinions, not for you to shoot your sarcasm off. You've had the benefit of a heap of free advice on here from other people, about time you started responding in a like manner. If you have nothing to contribute, other than bile, then don't. You protest too much.
    See my post #6: "I spent 3 hours reading through the brompton website, and 2 more on the general www yesterday before posting my thread..."

    When I start a thread, I've expended significant effort (see post #6) beforehand to make sure I'm not wasting people's time. Maybe I set my standards and expectations too high, but I'd hope other people would do the same.

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    Yes, prtyich ... perhaps "your standards are too high" ... that wins 'euphemism of the day' in my book. Or, hmm... perhaps you're simply a bitter tool who likes to spew negativity on the internet to make others feel inferior. All the forums have a few like you with "high standards" - seen it before - nothing new.

    The OP had a valid question ...

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