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Old 06-24-10, 10:06 PM   #1
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Dahon Speed TR/ Bike Friday Companion

I have no experience with either one. I have looked through messages in this forum, and found a few bits of information, but more would be helpful.
So, any thoughts on how these would compare, for general purpose riding and occasional tours, would be helpful. Ride, handling, reliability?

Thanks for any thoughts.
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Old 06-24-10, 11:22 PM   #2
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both would be great for touring it seems the dahon has all the racks from the purchase so you are good from the get go. also they come with extra hand holds. plus thor sells the older models for cheap if you still wanna tour on the folder.

http://www.thorusa.com/dahon/2009/speedtr.htm not bad for $649

as for bike friday they are a tried and true model, you would probably chose the NWT for it's a very sturdy base for some long touring. They are more expensive though but that's what you get for a custom built bike.
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Old 06-25-10, 07:47 AM   #3
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Hmm, I wonder if you can get yourself a basic dahon cromo bike and build it up with racks and use that for touring. You can save some money that way. It doesn't seem that different than other dahon folding models like the multispeed boardwalk or vitesse (although I think all vitesses were aluminum).
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Old 06-25-10, 08:54 AM   #4
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Hmm, I wonder if you can get yourself a basic dahon cromo bike and build it up with racks and use that for touring. You can save some money that way. ...
If you are considering getting a new lower-priced Speed (the Speed D7 for $423 or the Speed P8 for $585) and then adding racks ($75 and $36), fenders ($33), MKS pedals ($63.95) and bar ends ($46.95) and are willing to forego the SRAM dual-drive hub, the VRO handlepost and the Klickfix compatible bracket on the current Speed TR, then you would save some money over the current price of a 2010 Speed TR ($989). However, you would have more in the bike than the cost of a closeout NOS Speed TR ($649) at ThorUSA. (All prices are from www.thorusa.com as of this date.) Hope this helps!
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Old 06-25-10, 10:35 AM   #5
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as much as it is fun to upgrade a bike and to have a truly special one off custom boardwalk ..... it is usually much more expensive than to get a bike which is closer to the target already. There will be stuff you can personalize and mod on every bike ...later on ... lol
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Old 06-25-10, 12:27 PM   #6
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I have a Bike Friday NWT and recently sold a Dahon Speed 8 (same frame as the TR). I think the BF is more fun to ride. The S8 felt flexy and would creak on cold nights.
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Old 06-25-10, 02:11 PM   #7
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I don't like my Friday too much. (pocket companion) I think it's an uncomfortable ride, and I always have problems with the gear shift getting stuck and the chain making a ton of noise. But the bottom line is I don't like the way it rides. Maybe I was spoiled by my swift folder.
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Old 06-25-10, 02:31 PM   #8
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Thanks for the responses. Perhaps I should have added that I have spent a bit of time touring on a Trek 520; which of the two (Dahon TR or Bike Friday) would give me a similar ride? Or am I expecting too much?
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Old 06-26-10, 12:39 AM   #9
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I own a Trek 520 and a Dahon Speed TR and I like them both very much.

I don't like Friday too much. I think they are a-lot more money of what you get and I just donít like the way they ride.
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Old 06-26-10, 07:24 AM   #10
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The way Bike Fridays are built is you give them all the specifications off the bike you love and they will duplicate it. My Pocket Rocket is built on the specs of my Paramount and the ride/handling is very similar. Only difference is it is a bit twitchier because of the smaller wheels. Not uncomfortable just different, Roger
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Old 06-26-10, 07:58 AM   #11
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Thanks for the responses. Perhaps I should have added that I have spent a bit of time touring on a Trek 520; which of the two (Dahon TR or Bike Friday) would give me a similar ride? Or am I expecting too much?
No offense intended, but I don't think that this is going to be very productive. The closer you are to some population average that Dahon targets -- with regards to size and riding position -- the better its fit which makes the Bike Friday's sizing flexibility less valuable. The Dahon Speed series has been around for a while -- eyeballing it, I would guess that the fit of the flat bar models are all quite similar -- so you should be able to find one to test ride. Trek 520s, for instance, come in many sizes and can be subtly modified such that generic comparisons are quite hard; e.g., swapped a stem/handlebar, cut the steering tube high/low, and so on.

Anyway, my own personal opinion is that, by far, the most important determinant of whether a bike rides well is bike fit. Most bikes are built within a relatively narrow range of geometries. There is some effect, but if the bike fits well chances are that it will be a pleasant ride, IMO.

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The closer you are to some population average that Dahon targets -- with regards to size and riding position -- the better its fit which makes the Bike Friday's sizing flexibility less valuable.

Good luck.
BINGO!

If you are tall (like me - 6'3" with long legs and arms) or heavier (230+ - not like me) a Dahon, as well as a lot of other folders, is likely not going to be a satisfactory bike. You are also limited on handle bar modifications on many Dahon models.

FYI: We started with D7's and I still have, and ride, my S1.

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Old 06-29-10, 10:59 PM   #13
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Again, thanks for the information.
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