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    xpedo - mmmm. me like... totally compatible, i can swap them around depending on the mood.

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    wellgo detachables is available here where I live.
    but I am not sure it is the same type.
    I have been eye-ing these on my friend's bike.
    compared to mks ezy, the wellgo has a wider platform,
    more suitable I think for my bozo stomping feet.

    and I believe, to release is not by pulling, but twisting?

    30 dollars here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chagzuki View Post
    Let us know how you get on with them.
    Got my Xpedo XCF05s in the mail today and have to say I am very pleased.

    First off they are exceedingly narrow when detached (as narrow as just the wrench flats on any normal pedal). Any narrower and you'd have to start considering the curvature of the crank arm.
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    Also the QR mechanism (shouldered spindle secured via spring loaded pull pin) is extremely easy to use...as easy as folding the old Downtube folding pedals I have (not surprising since those pedals are also from Wellgo and use a spring loaded pull pin). The red tab is just there for you to grip the pull pin; Pull the tab and the pedals come right out. Push the pedals back in and they snap in place (though you might have to rotate them a little cause the spindle has a hex shaped end...but aligning it is no harder than putting a coin in a vending machine).
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    You could zip tie them to the crank arms for a quasi-folding pedal, but I think stashing them somewhere else on the bike gives a neater, more compact fold:
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    So far I only went for a ride around the block, but the pedals themselves seem to be grippier than the plastic pedals I was using before and much much stiffer (not to mention the excellent replaceable cartridge bearings...a world of difference from my old pedals which had crappy bearings to begin with and were probably 5x past their useful life span). Rain could change my opinion about grip, but I doubt it because there are both arrowhead and V shaped (twin point) replacement pins available (standard Wellgo pins). They're also a few mm narrower and thiner than the plastic pedals, which gives more ground clearance and a smaller fold when the pedals aren't detached:
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    They're also marginally lighter than the plastic pedals (and most of the weight is in the QR mechanism...so if you choose to put them in your pocket they won't weigh down your pants). My bike currently weighs in at 16.4 pounds:
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    They look great. Hmm, I don't really want to spend even more money on bike stuff. . . but at some point I'm sure I'll pick these up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwd-bwd View Post
    I don't ride fixie but do appreciate the control these foot straps provide. In my experience they are much better than Power Grips (which can be used on M079 too), and don't get me started with cages.
    Hi I have been looking at a pair of these or possibly these ones

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/wellgo-QRD-C12...item4155db2007

    Would someone just confirm that that Power Grips (which I also plan to purchase) work on the Wellgo QRD-M079 i.e. the ones shown in the first post ?

    The other ones I listed are caged but are the M079s a better grip, not that it will matter I guess if I use Power Grips.

    Initially I was going to try them on my Mouton TSR2 but maybe if I like them I might put them on my Brompton too

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    yeah the powerstrips should work fine
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    Jerry: You may install Power Grips on your pedals after removing the reflectors.

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    Thanks for the repsonses.

    I am still not sure which ones to get **sigh**

    The caged ones in the ebay link above or the QRD-M079s

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    I managed to find some black ones of the caged variety

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

    I have ordered them as they seem like good value. If I hate them I can order the QRD-M079s and use the clips to move the pedals between bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwd-bwd View Post
    Looks like a death trap to me.

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    I intend to fit and try these first



    Regards

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    Hi,

    the QRD-Systems looks good. I would be happy if they would have a pedal tike the WAM-D10 with the QRD. One side SPD, other normal platform - that is my favourite pedal

    greets

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    Wellgo has a double-sided SPD version as well as the flat pedal pictured at the start of this thread, I have both and since they both use that QRD fitting on the crank they are interchangable, that is you can easily swap out flats for clipless on a day that you're taking a longer ride. And I have used Powergrips with the flat pedals, would work okay but I just prefer SPDs. Just nice to sometimes pop on the flats and ride in something other than stiff-soled cycling shoes.

    One small warning, you will sometimes find the red catch on the QRD mechanism a bit stiff or jammed up. Always wiggle the red button up and down a few times before inserting the pedal, to free it up. Always beats pedalling off only to have a pedal fall on the pavement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by just4tehhalibut View Post
    One small warning, you will sometimes find the red catch on the QRD mechanism a bit stiff or jammed up. Always wiggle the red button up and down a few times before inserting the pedal, to free it up. Always beats pedalling off only to have a pedal fall on the pavement.
    Ok now I am wondering if I have chosen well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uno View Post
    Hi,

    the QRD-Systems looks good. I would be happy if they would have a pedal tike the WAM-D10 with the QRD. One side SPD, other normal platform - that is my favourite pedal

    greets
    I believe the Wellgo spindles may be interchangeable, so it may be possible to replace the spindle in your WAM-D10s with the QRD spindle.

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    Well the black caged ones turned up this morning from the ebay seller

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

    Great value, good service and fast delivery to the UK from Taiwan

    Interestingly the power grips I ordered from the UK at the same time, still haven't turned up

    If I had to be picky then I would have hoped that the little release catch had been metal rather than plastic, but the locking/unlocking mech seems very sturdy.

    I will report back once I have fitted them with the grips to my Moulton TSR2.

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysimon View Post
    Well the black caged ones turned up this morning from the ebay seller

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

    Great value, good service and fast delivery to the UK from Taiwan

    Interestingly the power grips I ordered from the UK at the same time, still haven't turned up

    If I had to be picky then I would have hoped that the little release catch had been metal rather than plastic, but the locking/unlocking mech seems very sturdy.

    I will report back once I have fitted them with the grips to my Moulton TSR2.

    Regards

    Jerry
    The catch on my Xpedo pedals is metal...so I guess that's one of the differences between the cheaper and more expensive models.

    Can you tell what type of bearings the QRD-C128 pedals you got have? Cartridge or loose ball? Serviceable? I'm thinking of ordering a pair of these for my other (beater) bike, but I'd prefer to know what I'm getting for my money.

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    Chucky,

    I think the catch, use to be metal but they "upgraded it" to plastic.

    I have taken the pedal apart and it appears that the bearings are removable after undoing a nut at the outside end of the spindle hidden under the plastic cap.

    That said at this price not sure it would be worth it!

    I will take some photos and post later once I fix the Power Grips on.

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysimon View Post
    Chucky,

    I think the catch, use to be metal but they "upgraded it" to plastic.

    I have taken the pedal apart and it appears that the bearings are removable after undoing a nut at the outside end of the spindle hidden under the plastic cap.

    That said at this price not sure it would be worth it!

    I will take some photos and post later once I fix the Power Grips on.

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    Thanks. I decided to order the QRD-M138 over the QRD-C128 because they were only $4 more and:
    -They have replaceable sealed cartridge bearings. These should last longer and be easier to eventually repair. I ride in all weather and I hate maintenance.
    -The pictures show the red metal tabs as opposed to the black plastic tabs. Hopefully it hasn't been "upgraded" to plastic.
    -They have built in reflectors. With the way they avoid pedal reflectors most cyclists must have a death wish.

    Disadvantages of the M138s:
    -According to spec the aluminum version of the M138s is slightly heavier than the C128s (there's also a magnesium version which is lighter than both), but probably not after you add the reflectors to the C128s.
    -I'm not sure if the M138s are compatible with grips/straps/etc. Doesn't matter to me because I decided I don't like using foot retention on this bike and if I did I'd use SPDs.
    -The C128s might be grippier than the M138s due to sharper serrated teeth...especially since I ride with SPD sandals with cleats installed for my other bike, so the open cage of the C128s might provide more room for the cleat to not intefere. While the M138s have two replaceable pins, they don't appear to be in a useful spot.

    In the end the sealed bearings just seemed worth the extra $4 and I just noticed that the pedals I'm replacing are actually a steel nonQR version of the C128s (LU-964), so if the M138s aren't as grippy then I'll know what I'm missing. Worst case I buy a pair of QRD-C128s and keep the parts from the M138s as spares.

    The fact that Wellgo sells upgrade titanium (nonQR) axles and that some of the QRD pedals on ebay aren't in the catalog makes me think that it should be possible to convert almost any Wellgo pedal into QRD by simply swapping the axle. With the right tools I bet you can even cut down the ends of the titanium axles to the proper hex shape for some super light detachable pedals.

    P.S. I happened to see a pair of MKS EZY pedals in my LBS yesterday. The Wellgo QR mechanism is without a doubt way narrower. That and the better quality and selection of Wellgo pedals has made this the second set of QRD pedals I'm ordering (first set was Xpedo XCF05...quick release version which isn't in the catalog).

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    As promised some pictures.

    As they arrive




    Pedal stripped down and plastic cap off to reveal internal bearings which seem removable/replaceable ?





    Power Grips





    Fitted to my TSR2 (it needs a clean damn British winter)




    Overall I am very pleased with them. This is the first time I have used Power Grips or for that case, any kind of foot retaining device on a pedal. I love how it makes you feel more connected to the bike and certainly seems to improved efficiency when riding. The idea of toe straps or clips always put me off for fear of my foot getting trapped, but with these you just turn your foot side ways and it slips straight out. Turning your foot from the side position in parallel towards frame tightens them up. Simple and simply brilliant

    Regards

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    After reading all the good reviews about the Wellgo QR pedals, I am ready to try a pair.
    Does anyone have a pair to sell?
    I just would like to try them before committing my lean budget to new ones.
    Many thanks in anticipation.
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    These are even cheaper new now

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Wellgo...item2579529734

    PS mine seemed fine, though I have not used them much of late.

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    I bought three pairs for my folders a couple of months ago.
    2 standard M138 same as badrads red pair page1
    1 pair spd QRD wo1
    I have changed to MKS cleats on my cycling shoes then they are compatible with my MKS versions also.
    All seem to work fine so far but little use yet.
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    Eventually they develop play between the removable axles and the QR fittings, something like worn bushings. My partner has 3 sets (Look Keo, SPD, flats) and racks up a fair mileage each year. She has not found it a problem yet and we'll replace like-for-like when the play gets too great.

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    Not surprised about that. There is a tad of play to start with. Mks better in long term?
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