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    What is a good price for this?

    So I would have posted this in the appraisal thread but I figured it belonged here. I am going to look at a 60's Amica folder tomorrow. The bike does still fold and unfold but according to the seller "the bike is not ride-able". The pedals are frozen apparently and maybe the crank. I am not sure I am just going off what the seller says. Anyway it's pretty haggard looking and they are asking 100 OBO I am just wondering I don't think I want to spend that much on it and have to put lots of money into it for repairs. So, what does it seem worth I can't find much about the worth of these Amica folders.





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    Did you say $100 OBO? We have people from various countries on the forum.

    Even if $100 the bike needs far too much work to justify that. The owner is resting on the hope that it is so antique or collector it can justify that price. I think it's worth max $40 unless someone can correct me that this is a very rare collector's bike?

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    Aron, I would offer around 40, and see what their counter offer is and go from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mulleady View Post
    Did you say $100 OBO? We have people from various countries on the forum.

    Even if $100 the bike needs far too much work to justify that. The owner is resting on the hope that it is so antique or collector it can justify that price. I think it's worth max $40 unless someone can correct me that this is a very rare collector's bike?
    Not even rare, I'm afraid, heavy and solid, 20 would be generous, which Country are you from? Might be rare in Greenland for example.
    Just about every country made these cheap heavy 'Klapprad' style bikes
    This Amica was probably made in the 1960's by the Factory [Teodoro Carnielli] Located in Vittorio Veneto, Italy,

    Bike weighs 35 lbs with 20" wheels, normally 3-speed (when you can get the pedals to go around!)

    I wouldn't bother there are many similar bikes for sale in better, and rideable condition.

    Let us know if you get it, or what you find otherwise. Good luck!

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    Cool thanks for your advice. I am hoping that because I know quite a bit about the mechanics of bikes maybe the woman selling it won't. It didn't seem like it on the phone so if I point out everything wrong I may get the price down a lot. I am in the U.S. I forgot to put the dollar sign. Also here in lynnwood, WA (seattle-ish) these don't seem to come up very often. Most of them are in restored or very good original condition like a Raleigh that the seller is asking over $200.00 for.

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    The Raleigh is a much better bike, and, once restored, probably worth $200, even in very good condition, I would not have thought that the Amica would be regarded a collector's item and worth that sort of money.
    But if you want it for a hobby, then fine, would look forward to seeing it as you make progress.

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    20 bucks max ..... Raleigh 20 are a special breed .... its not even so much the bike its the people who startet to collect them and restore them ... they ( the bike ) weigh a ton and are not special in any particular way .. they just ride nice ( after you dump 200 plus dollars into it, and a lot of tricky upgrades, the sky is the limit ) When you see some of the twenties they have MUCH more money in them ... and they are still super heavy..... but cause some influanetail folks have viewed them through pink glasses since quite some time they became collector bikes....

    same is somewhat true about early fully stainless steel dahons in perfect conditions....

    everything else is just usually a heap of heavy rusted pile of metal ....

    having said that I like the twenties .... but Buyer beware for a lot of other old folders....
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    After some years with folding bikes I wouldn't want that one as a present. It has no future and is in terrible condition. If I saw that in the hard rubbish it would stay right there.
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    So I ended up buying the bike today. I have to say I do it more for the experience than whether or not it is a bike that will be worth anything some day. Yes it is in very bad condition. Does that stop me from taking on the challenge of bringing it back to life without spending "$200", no. I picked it up for $40 bucks and I think it's pretty cool.

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    Forgot to mention yes my main ride is an 80's Motobecane Mixte 12 speed

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    Experience is always good! Dont forget to come back here one day to post pics of how it is turning out in your hands. Inquiring minds need to know.
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    That tool-bag-looking thing that's hanging off the back of the saddle; if that's leather, then carefully cleaning it that by itself would be worth the $40. Anything in it?
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    Sadly there is nothing in it and it is green canvas... sad day. I like the paper grocery bag sized basket. I don't think it will be going back on but we will see. I made a new thread that will have all the photos by the way.

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    there is nothing wrong to take a beater like this and hone their skills in restauration .... learning the pitfalls and rewards of such a project is beyond the actual perceived value of the bike itself...

    have fun and keep us informed about the rebirth of that little knacker
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