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    Extending 6-speed Brompton range

    I would like to extend the range of a 6-speed Brompton with 12% lower gearing. I am happy with the lower end of the range, handy for the hills I need to tackle, but I find the upper end is not enough when I am on the flat areas. Could the cog for the higher gears be changed into something that would give me what I want? I am not too worried about having a range of gears with a large gap in the middle.

    Thanks

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    I've Got a front derailleur bracket I got from CM Wasson to sell or return,
    then you have a 3rd lever, a thumbshifter.
    procrastinating on returning it .. as the Mountain drive works better for me.
    sell for what he charged me for this custom made powder coated bracket
    to mount a Braze-on type front derailleur .

    common crank used, a 53/39, or perhaps a 52/42.. PM to chat..

    Brompton says the 13/15 on the hub gets the job done best on that end , half step..

    You could also buy a Schlumpf Overdrive planetary 2 speed crankset aka
    speed drive 1.65% X, or high speed drive 2.6X
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    Thanks for the offer, but I am after a solution that doesn't involve a 3rd lever, unhappy enough with having two.

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    Mountain/speed drive cranks shift with a button you tap with your heel. no added lever.

    it's in the place where the crank arm fits onto the spindle.

    http://schlumpf.ch/antriebe_engl.htm

    http://kinetics.org.uk/html/mountain_drive.shtml or http://www.foldabikes.com/

    I got a Mountain drive for My Brompton 54t + a 15t on my AW3 hub,

    in low the crank is in effect a 21.6t [it's hilly and then some, here]
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    Quote Originally Posted by imosqueira View Post
    I would like to extend the range of a 6-speed Brompton with 12% lower gearing. I am happy with the lower end of the range, handy for the hills I need to tackle, but I find the upper end is not enough when I am on the flat areas. Could the cog for the higher gears be changed into something that would give me what I want? I am not too worried about having a range of gears with a large gap in the middle.

    Thanks
    Yes it can. Search the threads for a 12/17 or 12/18 cog combination.

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    FWIW,
    Mk3 sram 3x2 hubs are 3 speed spline Mk4 sturmey BWR hubs are shimano spline

    on My Older Mk 2 bike rear end 15t is as large as fits , before the frame tube interference hits it.
    I have a 15t cog from the Sram hybrid hub on my sturmey AW3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    FWIW,
    Mk3 sram 3x2 hubs are 3 speed spline Mk4 sturmey BWR hubs are shimano spline

    on My Older Mk 2 bike rear end 15t is as large as fits , before the frame tube interference hits it.
    I have a 15t cog from the Sram hybrid hub on my sturmey AW3.
    Thanks for the warning. I have an SRAM 3 speed.

    So it seems I need to get a custom made cog, but the one I am interested in changing is the smaller one, so might be hard to go smaller than what I have, which is a 13. Maybe a larger chainring combined with a larger large cog to compensate?

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    So, another possibility, is get regular sturmey cogs ground thinner, to take 3/32 chain, as they make 1/8" thick to 22t.

    Highpath Engineering, In Wales UK, has made some larger cogs of aluminum to fit in these situations , before , [seen pictures] and as they are set up to make custom chainrings for any user, they may do so again.

    Ive been pretty happy with My Mountain drive kit, a 13/15 set on the hub would narrow the spacing and double the ratios.
    so there would be 12 vs the nicely practical 6 , there is no overlap of any ratios, the 3<>4 gap is only slightly wider than the 1,2,3 at 33%, its 41% as i recall .. on Sheldon's Gears calculator site ..

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    I have the stock Stronglight made 50t crankset in a box now , that I took off..
    if you have your bike fitted with the 44.

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    Fit a BWR hub to widen the range. Changing one of the two cogs will mess up the relatively even interlaced gear pattern.

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