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Old 10-03-10, 10:46 PM   #1
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My 24 lbs Dahon Speed TR and Counting.....

hi all,

just a quick update on my Dahon Speed TR.

thinking that the 29.5 lbs dahon speed tr was just too heavy for my multi modal commute and felt like a tank if carried, i decided to trim it down and was surprised that the weight went down to 23.5 lbs (if my bathroom scale is to be trusted):

what i have done:
1) i removed both rear and front racks. i don't really need a rack.
2) i changed the rear and front tires to kojaks (20x1.35)
3) i changed the grips to Ergon GP1 grips (without the bar ends)

future plan:
1) change front wheel to Kinetix Pro (which hopefully will save me about 1+ lbs more).
2) change the front handlebar to a ritchey and trim it more about 2 inches.

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PS: as you can see, there is so much space between the tire and fender. i don't think i can narrow the gap though.

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Old 10-03-10, 11:26 PM   #2
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If you don't need the full width of the handlebar, chop it down and narrow the width. You'd be surprised how heavy the bar is...
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Old 10-03-10, 11:56 PM   #3
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If you don't need the full width of the handlebar, chop it down and narrow the width. You'd be surprised how heavy the bar is...
thanks for the tip. that sure looks heavy so trimming about 2 inches will make it a bit lighter. i ordered a ritchey handlebar which i think might be a little bit lighter than the dahon kinetix handlebar. but i sure will change it if not cut about 2 inches off.
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The weight of your bike is now in the neighborhood of my Pocket Crusoe, and my Crusoe (with rear rack) feels pretty light when I take off my panniers. For my money, you're in light and fast range now! And, it's amazing how sporty certain tires can make a bike look. Your TR has gone from tourer to "roady". Job well done.

On a side note, I used to have a Dahon Speed P8 and I liked it very much. Good, solid bike. I kept the Big Apple tires on it, so it was more my take-a-beating on city potholes bike than a racer, but had I thrown on some slicks, it would have trucked along nicely, I imagine. I think you'll find Dahon to be solid and reliable.
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I'd be curious to know how much the current handlebar weighs.
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Listen .... before you cut the handlebar .... Move all the controls into the center and try it out first , how you like it...
than cut half of the distance .... and try it again ...
its real easy to cut too much off and than you find yourself on a bucking Bronco and you hate yourself for doing this ...

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The weight of your bike is now in the neighborhood of my Pocket Crusoe, and my Crusoe (with rear rack) feels pretty light when I take off my panniers. For my money, you're in light and fast range now! And, it's amazing how sporty certain tires can make a bike look. Your TR has gone from tourer to "roady". Job well done.

On a side note, I used to have a Dahon Speed P8 and I liked it very much. Good, solid bike. I kept the Big Apple tires on it, so it was more my take-a-beating on city potholes bike than a racer, but had I thrown on some slicks, it would have trucked along nicely, I imagine. I think you'll find Dahon to be solid and reliable.
thanks kego. i too am hoping that this bike will give me years of fun ride like your Speed. that's another reason i bought this one - steel frame. might be heavy but steel. and the 24 speed - can't complain. i bet you, you're loving your BF more than your Speed 8. i wanted to get the stelvio tires for more weight savings but had read that it's harsh and not forgiving on city riding.

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Listen .... before you cut the handlebar .... Move all the controls into the center and try it out first , how you like it...
than cut half of the distance .... and try it again ...
its real easy to cut too much off and than you find yourself on a bucking Bronco and you hate yourself for doing this ...

take your time
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will try that. thanks a lot. on a side note - how much weight will i be saving if i get the speed pro tt handlebar/post set from your website ?
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I'd be curious to know how much the current handlebar weighs.
i will let you know as soon as i received the ritchey handlebar i ordered. hopefully i can save at least 1/2 lb.

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Thanks. I doubt there'll be much of a weight saving at all to be honest, but we shall see.
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Would there be any advantage to get a rear wheel with a 9 speed cassette over the DD wheel?
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Thanks. I doubt there'll be much of a weight saving at all to be honest, but we shall see.
you're quite right. maybe just some grams in savings but i am just curious and just wanted to experiment. the only problem is i can only get a nice one in black anodized color. i will take pic as soon as i installed it.
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Would there be any advantage to get a rear wheel with a 9 speed cassette over the DD wheel?
weight wise may not have an advantage, maybe just a little over 200 grams i heard. the real advantage is in the no. of speed and smoothness in shifting. i can leave my gear to 4 and just shift the IG to high, normal or low speed.
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Would there be any advantage to get a rear wheel with a 9 speed cassette over the DD wheel?
i was also thinking about it. get the rear kinetix pro and i will have myself a nice looking speed tr sl and sell the sram DD. just a thought..
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just found out that the front TR wheel with dynamo hub weighs 2.178 lbs and the kinetix pro weighs 0.85 lb. so if i do change the front wheel to kinetix pro that will save me an additional 1.2 lbs. i will then be at par with the weight of the speed pro tt @ 22.88lbs.
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That neutron hub or whatever it's called: I assume the 54 gram weight doesn't include the QR skewer. . . or the hollow axle?
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I love these pix, its like seeing a famous celebrity nekkid....
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I love these pix, its like seeing a famous celebrity nekkid....
thanks gringo. wait till you see me put the kinetix pro wheel and the ritchey flat handlebar and it will be more nekkid..... hoping these changes will make my TR even more lighter. i am aiming for 22lbs give and take.

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Can you not slide the fender pole thingies slightly further into the plastic, er, bracket thingies (no idea if there's proper terminology for these parts)? If they're fully inserted you could saw a few millimeters off the ends, along with a plastic spacer/washer on the lowest part of the fender to push it further from the frame.
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Can you not slide the fender pole thingies slightly further into the plastic, er, bracket thingies (no idea if there's proper terminology for these parts)? If they're fully inserted you could saw a few millimeters off the ends, along with a plastic spacer/washer on the lowest part of the fender to push it further from the frame.
thanks 'zuki. that might be a good idea. i will try that. i might look for an extra piece of cable and cut it and put it on. i don't want to just cut the standard cable as i want to have a spare ones just in case i want to go touring and put back the big apple tires.

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PS: as you can see, there is so much space between the tire and fender. i don't think i can narrow the gap though.[/QUOTE]

Great job so far.


Some pieces like these can be found at most hardware stores usually in the nut and bolts bins area. They come in various sizes and I've seen them in black and white. I use them to get the proper fit for my fender on the rear wheel of my cyclocross bike. You can even cut them to size.

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Great job so far.


Some pieces like these can be found at most hardware stores usually in the nut and bolts bins area. They come in various sizes and I've seen them in black and white. I use them to get the proper fit for my fender on the rear wheel of my cyclocross bike. You can even cut them to size.

Good luck!
thanks a lot. i will try your advise and hopefully it will work on my fender.
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I'm curious about one thing, why didn't you buy a Bike that was more in line with the lighter weight you are striving to obtain now with all these Mods? Case in point, I recently purchased a "as new" Dahon Speed Pro for $400. That Bike, when purchased by the original owner was over $1000, as I saw the Original purchase receipt. The guy used the bike 2-3 times at most(millionaire on a yacht in west palm beach). The Bike with Pedals/seat, tips my scales at around 22.8 pounds, only a pound or so more then my previous folder, a dahon Mu Uno.
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I'm curious about one thing, why didn't you buy a Bike that was more in line with the lighter weight you are striving to obtain now with all these Mods? Case in point, I recently purchased a "as new" Dahon Speed Pro for $400. That Bike, when purchased by the original owner was over $1000, as I saw the Original purchase receipt. The guy used the bike 2-3 times at most(millionaire on a yacht in west palm beach). The Bike with Pedals/seat, tips my scales at around 22.8 pounds, only a pound or so more then my previous folder, a dahon Mu Uno.
i wish i could find one but i tried and been looking for a speed pro for so long now and the closest i could get my hand at was a 2005 speed pro (not a TT) that the seller listed for $650 and it was used extensively by the owner. can't find anything here in SF. you sure got a good deal on that one.
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The guy I bought mine from in West Palm Beach had a pair of these Speed Pros and it took him over 3 months of Ads on CL to sell them, belive it or not. Mine's a 2006 Speed Pro and while there a few changes on the new ones (like new style handlebars, one more gear ring on the cassette, 3x8 gearing, new TT's have a 3x9 gearing, different seat attachment & no air pump) but the frame is the same so really nothing that was deal breaker at that price of $400. He wanted $500 but I showed him $400 and he took the deal. I like the Chromoly Frame of the Speed Pro better then Aluminum also. So far the Sram DD is working out great. I thought the single speed MU Uno was the ticket for me but after 6 months of owning one, I needed more gears for trips out of flat as a pancake miami. I must admit the Mu Uno was sweet for taking onto the trains, buses ect as well as up the escalators. It rolled folded like a dream. Good luck with the TR it looks good , someday one of 'em is in my future.

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