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Old 11-17-10, 09:05 PM   #1
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Airnimal Joey SRAM-9 knocked down ~23% at Calhoun Cycle - why?

I don't know enough about the various configurations and component choices to understand this, but is there a reason this bike

http://www.calhouncycle.com/productc...idproduct=2430

is being discounted in a way other configurations of the Joey aren't? Is it the SRAM-9? Something else?

Any and all advice much appreciated. (No, I'm not tempted by it. Really. This is just a learning exercise. I like those. I'm a professor.)
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Just my personal observations...

The Joey competes against the Swift. The Swift folds easier (and smaller?), rides as well or better, and for the rest is fairly similar. But its original price is almost double the Swift's, so I suppose the choice falls away from the Joey with customers...
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Check out the deal on the used Swift, that is a great deal.
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Just my personal observations...

The Joey competes against the Swift. The Swift folds easier (and smaller?), rides as well or better, and for the rest is fairly similar. But its original price is almost double the Swift's, so I suppose the choice falls away from the Joey with customers...
That's an interesting thought. I've never conceived of the Joey as having any direct competition. Between the almost full sized wheels and the sort-of-but-not-really fold, it's an odd duck. But its sporty appeal is somewhat similar to the Swift's, now that you mention it. If they'd bring the commute model Joey (with the internal hub) down to that price, I might bite (against my better judgment - and that of Mrs lexm, who's soon to become a Swift owner, incidentally ).
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I bet it's been sitting there collecting dust so they decided to drop the price and get their $$$ back to invest in new stock.
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I don't know about the Swift, they are not for sale in the Netherlands as far as I know. . .
But about the Joey, it's the "old " frame version. Nothing wrong with it, but something to know.
A new version with the Shimano Alfine costs in Great Brittan just over 900 Pounds.
Interesting is the opinion of the shop about this bike. Super Deal on a Super Bike
Not sure about the Swift, but they are right in my opinion about the Joey.
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Check out the deal on the used Swift, that is a great deal.
I did (and even inquired about it)! And it is!

But I can only get so many bikes (where "so many" = "one more than we'll have when Mrs lexm's Swift arrives" ) so I have to choose carefully.
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Appreciate the post of a good deal on a new folder. Thanks.
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SRAM 9 is old hat at this point. With 10sp mid-level mtn components, including some pretty wide range cassettes, 9sp is obsolete. ...Marketing-wise, anyway. Scoop up that 9sp Airnimal, I bet it's nothing except a victim of "more is better" marketing.
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The Joey competes against the Swift. The Swift folds easier (and smaller?), rides as well or better, and for the rest is fairly similar. But its original price is almost double the Swift's
This didn't parse right. As you've described it, the Swift is easier, smaller, better, and cheaper. Where is the tradeoff?
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This didn't parse right. As you've described it, the Swift is easier, smaller, better, and cheaper. Where is the tradeoff?
I take Jur to be saying that although the Joey competes for the same market segment as the Swift, the Swift folds easier, rides as well or better, is cheaper, and for the rest it's a virtual dead heat - hence the Swift is popular and the Joey is lost in its shadow, needing a price cut to spur interest.

His point isn't that there is a tradeoff, but that the Swift is the clear winner - anything you'd consider a Joey for, you'd likely find a Swift more attractive.

Jur, did I interpret you correctly?
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Yep you did well in reading my thoughts...
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Just to make sure; is this the Swift you are talking about?
http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/...-quickfold.jpg

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