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Old 12-11-10, 08:51 PM   #1
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Raleigh Twenty buildup complete

At long last, I have finished building up my Raleigh Twenty. It took a lot longer than I expected for various reasons, choosing a part that didn't work, missing some small part here and there, and when you get down to it, I'm not much of a mechanic. But it's done, so here are some pics.

The build is:
Frame & fork-1973 Raleigh Twenty;
Headset-Tange G32STR Aheadset, used with 26tpi nuts from original headset and Sinz seatpost clamp;
Stem-Nitto Periscopa (Technomics not quite tall enough, don't ask me how I know that);
Handlebar-Soma Sparrow (installed upside down to get the grips higher);
Grips-Rivendell Portuguese cork, with three coats of Zinser Bullseye Amber (when you glue them to the handlebars, the glue may set better and faster if you shellack them AFTER you glue them, don't ask me how I know that);
Brake Levers-Tektro BMX levers;
Shifter-SA SLS 3C (grip shift won't work on Sparrows, don't ask me how I know that);
Bell-Crane Copper Suzu;
Front hub-SA HBT, 36x451;
Rear hub-SA SRF3, 36x451;
Rims-Velocity Synergy;
Tires-Primo Comet 37x451;
Brakes, Tektro R-365 (had to make a drop plate to use these with the Pletscher rack);
Pedals, KKT Top Run;
Crankset-Sugino RD2, 165mm;
Chainring-Sugino 46 tooth;
Chain-SRAM PC-7X 1/8 inch;
Cog-SA, 18 tooth;
BB-Shimano UN72, 116mm, with Phil Wood cups;
Saddle, Brooks B17;
Seatpost-Thomson Elite, 28.6x400 (330mm Kalloy Uno not tall enough, don't ask me how I know that);
Seatpost clamp-Crow Cycles;
Rack-Pletscher C?;
Kickstand-Pletscher Esge (if I were a good mechanic, I wouldn't have had to cut it five times to get the right length--at least I didn't cut it short).

I've added a couple photos of the drop plate I made so that brakes could fit with the Pletscher rack. Nothing big, just some flat bar with a couple holes drilled in it, but it works.

Also, I should point out that the wheels were built by 3Sports, my LBS in Richmond. The paint job on the frame and the pump is by Canyon Custom Air, also in Richmond. Both did a great job and I recommend them.
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Old 12-12-10, 07:01 AM   #2
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Very nice, you should be proud of your build. Others may have a different opinion but I think you should consider fenders, some nice hammered silver ones.
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WOW!!!! That's some sweet looking bike. Love the color, Brooks saddle, Soma Sparrow handlebars, brake levers and grips. Hell, I love the bike!!!

I'm printing out your post that list the changes in detail for future reference for my Sybil.

What a handsome bike. And you consider yourself not that much of a mechanic? Puhlezze!!!!!

P.S. Unless you really need the fenders for practical purposes, I wouldn't get them. The bike shines as is.

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Old 12-12-10, 08:39 AM   #4
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WOW!!!! That's some sweet looking bike. Love the color, Brooks saddle, Soma Sparrow handlebars, brake levers and grips. Hell, I love the bike!!!

I'm printing out your post that list the changes in detail for future reference for my Sybil.

What a handsome bike. And you consider yourself not that much of a mechanic? Puhlezze!!!!!

P.S. Unless you really need the fenders for practical purposes, I wouldn't get them. The bike shines as is.
I always want fenders, you never know WHAT is on the road ways that you may inadvertently run through.

Beautiful job on the build up!
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You must have fenders on Mackinac Island. Thats not a puddle of water on the road!
Lovely bike. Whats the gearing like with that 46/18 combo?
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You must have fenders on Mackinac Island. Thats not a puddle of water on the road!
Lovely bike. Whats the gearing like with that 46/18 combo?
Thanks. According to Sheldon's calculator, with the 165mm crank, the gears are 39, 52, and 69 inches. So far I've only ridden it around the block three times, but I think that's a good range for the riding I'll be doing.

As for fenders, I don't expect to ride it much in the wet, so I think I'll be OK without them.
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Nicely done! it's always an extra pleasure to work on something yourself and actually enjoy the fruits of your labor.
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Old 12-12-10, 04:44 PM   #8
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... don't ask me how I know that)
Looks like knowledge was gained at some expense. You & me both.
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Fenders

Sorry if it sounds like I'm beating a dead horse but here is something you might want to read. Briefly:

"Please see my article on fenders. Here is the first paragraph: Fenders are not just to protect you from what’s falling on you. They’re to protect you from what your tires pick up and throw up at you. That includes more than just water, sludge and mud. That includes dog poo, urine, vomit, chemicals spilled on the pavement, oil, grease, pieces of roadkill, basically anything you wouldn’t want to step into when walking as well as small debris and pebbles and those hot, sticky bits of asphalt and tar we see in big cities in Summer.

I think that explains the need for fenders pretty much. Fenders are useful in any conditions, wet or dry as you never know what you’re going to run into. It could be a perfectly sunny, dry day but you may pass by a construction site or car wash and end up with dirty water on your face and your clean clothes."

This was taken from: http://nycbikecommuter.info/?p=1041
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You did a fantastic job! I love it and like SunnyFlorida, I'm printing your build specs in case I get a wild hair and up-grade one of my Twin R20's. It would be nice if you posted over on the raleigh twenty forum also.
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Old 12-13-10, 10:42 PM   #11
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You did a fantastic job! I love it and like SunnyFlorida, I'm printing your build specs in case I get a wild hair and up-grade one of my Twin R20's. It would be nice if you posted over on the raleigh twenty forum also.
Thanks, that's nice of y'all. And I did post over there in my gallery.
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Thanks. According to Sheldon's calculator, with the 165mm crank, the gears are 39, 52, and 69 inches. So far I've only ridden it around the block three times, but I think that's a good range for the riding I'll be doing.

As for fenders, I don't expect to ride it much in the wet, so I think I'll be OK without them.
Your choice of gearing is perfect. I prefer a 54 inch direct drive but 52 is just fine. Very nice bike.
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Annals of Excess

I modified a pump to fit the pump pegs, and then went overboard and got it painted to match the bike. Stupid, but I like to think of it as part of the stimulus package. Doesn't look bad though.
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Can't believe I forgot about your post on the RaleighTweny forum. You did a lot of work on that bike. Looks like you did the same pump mod I did. Did you replace the rubber boot on the frame QR?
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Your Twenty looks great. What brand of pump did you use?
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Can't believe I forgot about your post on the RaleighTweny forum. You did a lot of work on that bike. Looks like you did the same pump mod I did. Did you replace the rubber boot on the frame QR?
Yes, and I did do the same pump mod.

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Wooden crate

I wanted my Twenty to be more useful, so I built this crate to put on the rear rack. I could have used a regular plastic milk crate, but I preferred wood. And I could have looked for a wooden crate, but building it myself made for an appealing project itself. The crate frame is made of 1x2 poplar, the slats of 1x4 poplar, all painted green to match the lettering on the frame. I made two cleats to attach it to the rack. Though not shown, the cleats are cut so that they are inset on the rack, preventing sliding. The crate is about 15x9x9, so an ordinary paper grocery bag fits easily. It's raining so I haven't been to the grocery store yet, but soon, very soon.
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Nice job, but the crate looks a tad "overbuilt".

I used the same connection method to mount a pseudo milk crate to the rack on my Dahon S1. Works great even with a gallon of milk and a 1.5L bottle of wine in it.

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Stunning and inspirational build... will see if we can't make your bike the pin up for January or February.
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At long last, I have finished building up my Raleigh Twenty. It took a lot longer than I expected for various reasons, choosing a part that didn't work, missing some small part here and there, and when you get down to it, I'm not much of a mechanic. But it's done, so here are some pics.

The build is:
Frame & fork-1973 Raleigh Twenty;
.....Rack-Pletscher C?;
Kickstand-Pletscher Esge (if I were a good mechanic, I wouldn't have had to cut it five times to get the right length--at least I didn't cut it short).

I've added a couple photos of the drop plate I made so that brakes could fit with the Pletscher rack. Nothing big, just some flat bar with a couple holes drilled in it, but it works.

Also, I should point out that the wheels were built by 3Sports, my LBS in Richmond. The paint job on the frame and the pump is by Canyon Custom Air, also in Richmond. Both did a great job and I recommend them.
Another beautiful R20 now being enjoyed and appreciated by someone who cared enough to resurrect it!

I do wish I knew you wanted to add a double pronged or legged kickstand to your own Raleigh Twenty. On my own Twenty, I decided I wanted a double prong legged kickstand. So....I headed off to one of my favorite LBS. And their solution, a kickstand that does not have to be cut down to fit the smaller wheels. Here is the Webpage with all the details on this particular kickstand (except that the price is wrong, it is more like 25 dollars).

http://pasadenacyclery.com/product/giant-mode-kickstand-10070.htm

While it is a perfect fit as far as fitting on the bike, you do have to remember not to bump it against a curb a stair step, or the like as it hangs a bit low under the frame, then it either interferes with the cranks turning or becomes loose-or both as you can see from my photo below before readjusting it (just 1 time, now I know about lower hang). I have been using it for 6 months. I rather liked it.

It seems to be on the Dahon Curve too as this video from NYCEWheels shows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-REiNFRS7Hw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
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Very nice project. Yes, you could have bolted on a milk crate but the home made wooden crate is so much more personalized and better looking!
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That's one sweet R20!
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Yes. Nice job on the build.
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fine looking bike. paint job looks seventies. so matches the bike.
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Gorgeous R20! I love it!
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