Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Folding Bikes Discuss the unique features and issues of folding bikes. Also a great place to learn what folding bike will work best for your needs.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-15-10, 05:38 AM   #1
seawater
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 25
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Is Dahon Vector a Brompton killer?

This seem to be the bike Dahon is going to over take Brompton. Bigger wheels, attraction frame, better gearing, etc. Except better fold.
seawater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-10, 08:14 AM   #2
Azreal911
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Wheeler Mtn bike, Strida 5.0, Tern Link Uno, FSIR Spin 2.0, Dahon Mu P8
Posts: 857
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
alot of folders ride better than a brompton anyways but none can match them in the folding department that's where they will always reign surpreme, all of dahon's folds are bigger cause of the way they are folded.
Azreal911 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-10, 09:21 AM   #3
wandt
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Puget Sound
Bikes:
Posts: 115
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I don't know if the Brompton fold can be beat for the same wheel size. Other than the UFB, I think it rules that category.
wandt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-10, 12:36 PM   #4
badrad
Senior Member
 
badrad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 420
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
it not necessary for any make or model to be a killer of another. each make has it's own method of folding and it's own riding style. inevitable there are only so many ways to fold a bike - that will still allow the bike to be decently ride-able - and so each person has to make up their own mind as to what suits their needs the best.

from a fold and style standpoint, the vector is just a small upgrade from the Mu series, the shape and design has been around for a few years now. and if that hasn't dented brompton's sales back then, no reason to assume it will do so now.

while i am still a dahon fan (2 jacks, ciao and MuSL, and considering the Hammerhead) those days when the trains are extremely packed - and those days seem ever so more frequent - i have the eyes on the fellow bikers with their bromptons neatly folded and tucked away. but then again, i'm sure the eyes of the full size bikers waiting for the offpeak train are on my dahon fold as well.
badrad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-10, 01:36 PM   #5
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 7
Posts: 18,913
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 236 Post(s)
Dahon cannot settle on one design so they have dozens all made in that Low wage, low cost currency, country.

Mid 80s Dahons were rather klunky, weld quality not great.

Brompton has evolved their one frame design to be improved over the years,
and is Made in a High Wage, expensive currency, country.

Yankees or Red Sox? Green Bay Packers or ...

FWIW, My Brompton is 15 years old, a Mk 2, T, I got Used,
It's still OK.

[+I hate the violent .. killer .. metaphors]

Last edited by fietsbob; 01-01-11 at 02:28 PM.
fietsbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-10, 04:21 PM   #6
PDR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cheshire, North West England, UK
Bikes: Brompton S2L-X, Bridgestone Moulton, 1963 & 1966 Moultons, Scott Mountain bike
Posts: 559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I was riding my 2009 S-type lightweight Brompton across campus this morning and got to thinking.... the bike is 20 months old and has been used most days for work yet it still looks perfect and there are no rattles, squeaks or other annoying noises.... no worn frame hinges or paint chips..... like I experienced with 2 Dahon MU SL's

Brompton certainly know how to build quality bikes that will outlast a lot of foreign made competition.
PDR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-10, 10:54 PM   #7
folder fanatic
Banned.
 
folder fanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Anti Social Media-Land
Bikes:
Posts: 3,078
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by PDR View Post
I was riding my 2009 S-type lightweight Brompton across campus this morning and got to thinking.... the bike is 20 months old and has been used most days for work yet it still looks perfect and there are no rattles, squeaks or other annoying noises.... no worn frame hinges or paint chips..... like I experienced with 2 Dahon MU SL's

Brompton certainly know how to build quality bikes that will outlast a lot of foreign made competition.
+1. Fiive years old this month and still looks and rides just like it did on the day when I purchased my own basic, no frills model Brompton.
folder fanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-10, 12:15 PM   #8
merry2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 99
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Dahon cannot settle on one design so they have dozens all made in that Low wage, low cost currency, country.

Brompton has evolved their one frame design to be improved over the years,
and is Made in a High Wage, expensive currency, country.

Yankees or Red Sox? Green Bay Packers or ...

FWIW, My Brompton is 15 years old, a Mk 2, T, I got Used,
It's still OK.
why is it so necessary to "settle" on one design? i've heard this argument before and it think it's kinda goofy.

gm, honda, toyota, nissan, and ford have several car models which are updated, discontinued or created all the time. why? because people have different tastes and needs.

there isn't one kind of customer you know. and, we don't live in the ussr.

also, the incessant chatter about dahons being made in china (like most bikes and things you use aren't), really turns me off from bike friday. i once had a rep from bf say that to me over the phone and i thought it was so unprofessional. it was almost like it was code for something.
merry2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-10, 04:01 AM   #9
brommie
Senior Member
 
brommie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Bikes: Brompton T6, Koga Miyata Distance, Airnimal Joey
Posts: 155
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
[QUOTE=fietsbob;11937628 Brompton has evolved their one frame design to be improved over the years,
and is Made in a High Wage, expensive currency, country.
[/QUOTE]

My Brompton is 8 years old and still in good shape and gives a nice ride. (But I sure like to ride my Airnimal Joey).
But the mentioned evolving of the Brompton frame to improved over the years is something I can't agree with. As a matter of fact I think there is very little changed over the years looking at the Brompton frame. But then it was good at the beginning.
There is also only one frame, so you've got to like it, because that's all there is.
But brakes, gears and all the other parts they sure need to be updated. Many Brompton owners do, take a look at their bikes, read the messages on the internet. Many of them seem to find real pleasure in finding improvements as I do too.
brommie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-10, 08:53 AM   #10
vik 
cyclopath
 
vik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Victoria, BC
Bikes: Surly Krampus, Surly Straggler, Pivot Mach 6, Bike Friday Tikit, Bike Friday Tandem, Santa Cruz Nomad
Posts: 5,265
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by merry2 View Post

also, the incessant chatter about dahons being made in china (like most bikes and things you use aren't), really turns me off from bike friday. i once had a rep from bf say that to me over the phone and i thought it was so unprofessional. it was almost like it was code for something.
That's one of the things I like about Bike Friday. My bike was made nearby by people I can call up and talk to or visit as I have done three times now. Headed down for visit 4 after NYE.

My GF is getting a custom surfboard made by a guy a short bike ride from our house.

My next bike is being made by Waterford in the new year.

I'm getting a custom rack built by CETMA in OR for my tikit.

My kiteboard kites are designed locally, but built in Thailand.

If I can support a local company who makes a great product I will. That's not code for anything, but caring about folks in your area who make stuff for you.

You can't call up the Dahon factory and ask the guy who designed your bike a question or get them to customize your bike for you.
__________________
safe riding - Vik
VikApproved
vik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-10, 10:53 AM   #11
tmac100
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 641
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by merry2 View Post
why is it so necessary to "settle" on one design? i've heard this argument before and it think it's kinda goofy.

gm, honda, toyota, nissan, and ford have several car models which are updated, discontinued or created all the time. why? because people have different tastes and needs.

there isn't one kind of customer you know. and, we don't live in the ussr.

also, the incessant chatter about dahons being made in china (like most bikes and things you use aren't), really turns me off from bike friday. i once had a rep from bf say that to me over the phone and i thought it was so unprofessional. it was almost like it was code for something.
ENOUGH already. Buy what you want. I personally DO NOT want to decide which of 50 different types of soap to buy just so I can wash myself. I just want to wash. Got it?

The marketeering concept of "choice" is really over rated IMHO

Let us all go ride our folders, and who cares what make/model it is - we will ALL feel better. I KNOW I will
tmac100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-10, 01:14 PM   #12
wahoonc
Senior Member
 
wahoonc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: On the road-USA
Bikes: Giant Excursion, Raleigh Sports, Raleigh R.S.W. Compact, Motobecane? and about 20 more! OMG
Posts: 16,687
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by vik View Post
That's one of the things I like about Bike Friday. My bike was made nearby by people I can call up and talk to or visit as I have done three times now. Headed down for visit 4 after NYE.

My GF is getting a custom surfboard made by a guy a short bike ride from our house.

My next bike is being made by Waterford in the new year.

I'm getting a custom rack built by CETMA in OR for my tikit.

My kiteboard kites are designed locally, but built in Thailand.

If I can support a local company who makes a great product I will. That's not code for anything, but caring about folks in your area who make stuff for you.

You can't call up the Dahon factory and ask the guy who designed your bike a question or get them to customize your bike for you
.
And most of the time you can't even get parts to repair the durned things made in factories somewhere else.

Aaron
__________________
Webshots is bailing out, if you find any of my posts with corrupt picture files and want to see them corrected please let me know. :(

ISO: A late 1980's Giant Iguana MTB frameset (or complete bike) 23" Red with yellow graphics.

"Cycling should be a way of life, not a hobby.
RIDE, YOU FOOL, RIDE!"
_Nicodemus

"Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred
Which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?"
_krazygluon
wahoonc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-10, 02:54 PM   #13
brakemeister 
New usename ThorUSA
 
brakemeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Southern Illinois USA
Bikes:
Posts: 2,469
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
oh mei ...........
its christmas guys .... keep the rattle down ...
this has been discussed before and there are no winners ....


peace
thor

let me just add that Dahon is not out to destroy any of their competitors ...its a 0.9 market share for folders for everyone .... there is a lot of marketshare ready for everybody to bite off from the big bikes ....
__________________
www.thorusa.com
Dahon : Freedom Unfolds
Tern : all about the ride
brakemeister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-10, 03:32 PM   #14
Foldable Two
Senior Member
 
Foldable Two's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Vancouver, Washington and Ocean Shores, Washington, USA
Bikes: 2 - 2007 Custom Bike Fridays, 2 - 2009 Bike Friday Pocket 8's, Gravity 29'er SS, 2 - 8-spd Windsor City Bikes, 1973 Raleigh 20 & a 1964 Schwinn Tiger
Posts: 1,319
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
[QUOTE=brakemeister;

let me just add that Dahon is not out to destroy any of their competitors ...its a 0.9 market share for folders for everyone .... there is a lot of marketshare ready for everybody to bite off from the big bikes ....[/QUOTE]

Good point, Thor!!!
Foldable Two is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-10, 09:45 PM   #15
Dahon.Steve
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: New Jersey
Bikes:
Posts: 6,830
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by seawater View Post
This seem to be the bike Dahon is going to over take Brompton. Bigger wheels, attraction frame, better gearing, etc. Except better fold.
There are many bikes that have been considered Brompton killers over the years offering more gears, lighter weight and higher performance. Dahon had many 16' inch folders that offered more gears and were lighter than the Brompton. However, the Piccolo, Presto, Presto Lite and Curve SL are no longer in production, yet all of these bikes were in direct competition (with better components) but failed to kill the beast!

There's just something about the Brompton and it's more than the utility value. Since the bike has been around for over 20 years, it developed a following that can't be replaced. The name Brompton means something just like Schwinn did years ago. That something is called Bling.
Dahon.Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-10, 10:24 PM   #16
folder fanatic
Banned.
 
folder fanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Anti Social Media-Land
Bikes:
Posts: 3,078
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by brakemeister View Post
let me just add that Dahon is not out to destroy any of their competitors ...its a 0.9 market share for folders for everyone .... there is a lot of marketshare ready for everybody to bite off from the big bikes ....
I agree on this critical point. Dahon's reason for existence-as all businesses-is to make a profit on it's own version of folding/mini bikes. They do make a very hard-to-beat affordable bikes. I did enjoy both my Dahons while I owned them. When I was ready, I sold one and donated the other to a bike co-op charity that in turn gave it to someone who not only needed a bike badly, but will learn about the joys of folding bikes through that Dahon bike just as I did once. There is plenty of room and time to enjoy all of these bikes!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve View Post
There are many bikes that have been considered Brompton killers over the years offering more gears, lighter weight and higher performance. Dahon had many 16' inch folders that offered more gears and were lighter than the Brompton. However, the Piccolo, Presto, Presto Lite and Curve SL are no longer in production, yet all of these bikes were in direct competition (with better components) but failed to kill the beast!

There's just something about the Brompton and it's more than the utility value. Since the bike has been around for over 20 years, it developed a following that can't be replaced. The name Brompton means something just like Schwinn did years ago. That something is called Bling.
Not so much as the Bling Factor, but more like old fashioned quality and pride of craftsmanship. The original Schwinn factory was located in Chicago, employed people from the surrounding area, and served mostly a knowledgeable clientele in the US, Canada, and to a lesser extent, other first world countries. When globalization became in vogue, factories closed, production of goods went overseas to mostly the developing countries, and quality control went mostly out the window as Research & Design became separated or alienated from the production floor by thousands of miles or kilometers. I sadly saw that practice accelerate in the fashion industry since the 1980s. I now find that buying most anything that has been imported in countries that practice little or no quality control inspection before shipment is chancy at best. Bromptons are inspected carefully before shipment worldwide. You are paying for that practice that was once taken for granted just as paying extra for a garment that is carefully constructed locally-or at least in a developed country-and carefully inspected before presentation to the client as such.

Last edited by folder fanatic; 12-27-10 at 10:30 PM.
folder fanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-10, 04:30 AM   #17
brommie
Senior Member
 
brommie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Bikes: Brompton T6, Koga Miyata Distance, Airnimal Joey
Posts: 155
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
There's just something about the Brompton and it's more than the utility value. Since the bike has been around for over 20 years, it developed a following that can't be replaced.

I have the impression people at Brompton think so too. But things might change as time flows . . .
Maybe people at MG thought so too, or Rover or . . .
I sure hope Brompton will survive as a "local " company where they make there bikes with people you "can talk too". I sure hope the Brompton will stay a standard in quality and within the reach of many (price).
But I do hope they improve the bike a little faster than up till now. This might be necessary to survive and create a hopeful future.
Otherwise the Brompton killer might be a Brompton . . .
brommie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-10, 09:12 PM   #18
Dahon.Steve
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: New Jersey
Bikes:
Posts: 6,830
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by brommie View Post
There's just something about the Brompton and it's more than the utility value. Since the bike has been around for over 20 years, it developed a following that can't be replaced.

I have the impression people at Brompton think so too. But things might change as time flows . . .
Maybe people at MG thought so too, or Rover or . . .
I sure hope Brompton will survive as a "local " company where they make there bikes with people you "can talk too". I sure hope the Brompton will stay a standard in quality and within the reach of many (price).
But I do hope they improve the bike a little faster than up till now. This might be necessary to survive and create a hopeful future.
Otherwise the Brompton killer might be a Brompton . . .
The good news is that the Brompton is protected at least in the UK. We didn't protect our markets and that's why Schwinn is no longer making bikes.

There are plenty of people like me who find the Brompton just fine and no changes are necessary.
Dahon.Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-10, 10:14 PM   #19
Abneycat
Hooligan
 
Abneycat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Base of the Rocky Mountains, Canada. Wonderous things!
Bikes: 2010 Cannondale Hooligan 3
Posts: 1,431
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I think the only thing the Dahon Vector is killing is the Dahon Mu at the high end.

Personally, I would have been inclined to buy a Brompton instead of a Dahon if it had access to larger winter specific tires - but then it wouldn't be a Brompton anymore, not in spirit with its excellent fold. Basically, Brompton doesn't serve my niche. And for people who love that tiny fold, Dahon doesn't suit theirs.

I like Thor's sentiment. Folding bicycles have enough room to grow and enough breathing space inside the industry that these manufacturers all filling their niche within the niche works quite well.
Abneycat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-10, 11:11 PM   #20
chainstrainer
lube addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Central coast California
Bikes: Specialized FSR-XC, Optima Baron, Bianchi Pista, Strida 5.0
Posts: 515
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
As consumers, we benefit from variety of selection, whatever the product is. In the miniscule market of folding bikes, we're lucky to have much of any selection. Why would anyone look forward to a brand "killer", particularly one as long-established and respected as Brompton? That does not strike me as advancing our cause. Sure a Brompton has shortcomings, as does Dahon and other alternatives, but they must be doing something that others don't do quite as well or they would be extinct by now. Bottom line: rejoice in choice. We get to decide what the "killer" is for each of us individually.
chainstrainer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-10, 07:05 AM   #21
seawater
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 25
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Take the word 'killer' superficially. Its just a marketing jargon. In fact is more a compliment to Brompton that everyone is trying to 'dethrone' the 'king'. Just as everyone is looking to have a iphone 'killer' or Intel 'killer'. On the other hand a product need to 'progress' to stay relevant be it a wheel or gear train. This is an area Brompton is behind and we look forward to some innovations from them.
seawater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-10, 05:43 PM   #22
chucky
It's got electrolytes!
 
chucky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Bikes: Self-designed carbon fiber highracer, BikesDirect Kilo WT5, Pacific Cycles Carryme, Dahon Boardwalk with custom Sturmey Archer wheelset
Posts: 1,388
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My question is when is Brompton going to make the Dahon killer? Every time I try a Brompton I'm reminded of why Dahon sells more bikes...because Dahons are just better in terms of striking all the right compromises to suit the needs of most riders.


Quote:
Originally Posted by vik View Post
If I can support a local company who makes a great product I will. That's not code for anything, but caring about folks in your area who make stuff for you.

You can't call up the Dahon factory and ask the guy who designed your bike a question or get them to customize your bike for you.
Sometimes it's better not to see how the sausage is made. I've called Bike Friday and it only irritated me to see how little they really understood my needs and how unwilling they were to provide the customizations I wanted. So why pay more for something that only irritates me? Reason says I'd be happier dealing with a company that shut down the phone lines and passed the savings onto the customer and I have been.

"Local" and "western" made is code for helping people which are "like me" at the expense of people which are "not like me." But not all of us think that's an ideal or even the moral thing to do.

Besides, when the folks of my area/tribe/nation don't care for me then why should I care for them? Bike Friday does not care for me, but maybe that's because I'm not enough "like them" (as opposed to Vik, for example, who gets treated better because he has some sort of camaraderie with them). merry2 had it right, "it's unprofessional"

Last edited by chucky; 12-31-10 at 05:47 PM.
chucky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-10, 09:48 PM   #23
Lalato
Senior Member
 
Lalato's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bay Area and Sacramento
Bikes: Bike Friday Tikit
Posts: 1,160
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
chucky, I'm really interested to hear what customizations BF couldn't or wouldn't do for you. I think it would be a service to prospective BF customers to know what the limits are.

As for "killers"... the reason why Brompton hasn't made a Dahon killer has more to do with price point than with anything else. Most folding bike shoppers aren't willing to spend more than $500 on a bike (honestly that number is probably $300). Dahon makes several models in this range. Brompton does not. Brompton does, however, make one of the smallest folding bikes on the market. Dahon does not.

All I know is... it's Dec 31st, and I'm about to head out for a party. Happy New Year everyone!
Lalato is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-11, 05:28 AM   #24
seawater
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 25
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lalato View Post
chucky, I'm really interested to hear what customizations BF couldn't or wouldn't do for you. I think it would be a service to prospective BF customers to know what the limits are.

As for "killers"... the reason why Brompton hasn't made a Dahon killer has more to do with price point than with anything else. Most folding bike shoppers aren't willing to spend more than $500 on a bike (honestly that number is probably $300). Dahon makes several models in this range. Brompton does not. Brompton does, however, make one of the smallest folding bikes on the market. Dahon does not.

All I know is... it's Dec 31st, and I'm about to head out for a party. Happy New Year everyone!
Happy New Year!
Fully agree. If Brompton is in that price range it will be an instant 'killer'. I own a Dahon and I look forward to have a Brompton. Brompton buyers paying for inefficiency. Is that a fair statement?
seawater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-11, 02:00 PM   #25
PDR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cheshire, North West England, UK
Bikes: Brompton S2L-X, Bridgestone Moulton, 1963 & 1966 Moultons, Scott Mountain bike
Posts: 559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I get the impression that a lot of people who end up buying Dahons didn’t go to a bike store with the intention of buying a Dahon... rather they see one, it looks good and that is what they leave the store with. When I had a Dahon and saw someone else with a Dahon I’d try and acknowledge them but I was always met with a odd look or ignored.... in my experience, Dahon owners don’t seem to want to talk about their bikes...... they are just folding bikes.

By contrast people who buy Bromptons usually have seen the bikes and know that is what they want to buy. I have found that I can approach anyone with a Brompton and be sure of an enthusiastic response (regardless of whether I have my Brompton with me or not). I’ve never met a miserable Brompton owner or one that was unhappy with their bike.
PDR is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:19 AM.