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    Restored Raleigh Twenty

    I realize it's not a folding bike, but I had to share this with people who would appreciate it For my 30th birthday, I got an amazing present from my partner: a 1969 blue Twenty! It has new wheels, slick tires (Primo Comets), a VO saddle, and VO basket weave grips. I think it's super cute. The fenders and chainguard are rusty, so I'm planning to get it powdercoated in a few weeks and turn it into a commuter. I got a Bates Crate a while back for a different bike, but it looks perfect and fits nicely on the small rear rack. I just have to find a way to attach it permanently, as bungees aren't working too well.



    Now the two of us can go for rides on our Twenties together, yay!

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    Nice , I have been looking for a non folder but hard to find. VO has nice accessories.
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    Coat the fenders in heavy oil let is sit overnight and wipe it off. It will work wonders, doesn't remove the rust but does coat is so it stops. I have used this technique on many of my older Raleighs with great success. I like the color just the way it is and wouldn't mess with powder coating. That is also a fairly early Twenty, probably UK market. AFAIK the fixed frames were never sold in the US.

    I love that color of blue!

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    Great info, Aaron, thank you! The sticker on the bike says it was sold by Keswick Cycles (just outside Philly in Glenside, PA), but who knows if that was new or second hand. We haven't had more than one occasion to actually fold our little green Twenty, and I've bruised my thigh more than once on the little arm in the center of the frame, so I really like the idea of having the nonfolding version.

    I do love the blue and would do my best to match it if I repainted. The rust on the chainguard and fenders is pretty severe, but there's not much to speak of on the frame. If I could replace them I would, but I'd imagine finding the right size fenders and chainguard would be difficult, right?

    I just ordered two Nirve retro style lights for the front of each Twenty, so we don't have to use little Knog lights that look all wrong on the bike and don't do much to alert drivers to our presence, anyway.

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    I see that it's fairly easy to come by 20" chrome fenders, so that would look fine as a replacement. But the chain guard is another issue...no idea where to find one of those that would look right. It would need to be chrome, I think.

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    Hmm, I had no idea that was possible. Where would I have such a thing done? Sorry, I'm new to this

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    I added the link above.
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    Thank you

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    Another option might be to replace the fenders and chainguard. With the wooden crate looking so good and matching the saddle and hand grips so well, I might be tempted to get wooden fenders to match. Take a look at woodysfenders.com they might even be able to make you a wooden version of the chain guard.

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    Russcoles, that's an awesome idea. I love the look of those fenders! I just might have to pull the trigger.

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    looks fine to me just the way it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russcoles11 View Post
    Another option might be to replace the fenders and chainguard.
    Any suggestions on where to go for a replacement chainguard? (Sorry if this is an often-answered noob question, but I'm a noob here)

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    Beautiful bike, CFP, congrats.

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    Love the match up of the crate, saddle and grips. The crate seems a lot more practical than the portable tote I'm using.

    Let us know when you resolve the problem of making the crate more permanent on the bike.

    Would like to try a version of that on my R20. The tote I'm using is getting bothersome. I waste a lot of time strapping, unstrapping and re strapping the tote on/off/on the bike.


    With the crate I can just plop my backpack and u-lock in the crate and off I go.

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    Plastic tie wraps could be used to fasten a crate to a rack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carfreephilly View Post
    I got a Bates Crate a while back for a different bike, but it looks perfect and fits nicely on the small rear rack. I just have to find a way to attach it permanently, as bungees aren't working too well.
    By the way, I have a wooden crate on my Twenty. You can see how I attached it here:

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post12016410

    Basically I drilled holes through the crate and used long bolts to attach it to cleats under the rack. Though if I had a Bates crate, I might not want to drill it.

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    Plastic crates work well also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynocoaster View Post
    Plastic tie wraps could be used to fasten a crate to a rack.

    Errrrr.....are the plastic tie wraps the ones I see cops use to handcuff suspects (they bag in a big sweep) with-----not that I would no personally mind you.

    Harlond - I see the holes you drilled in the crate and the bolts. For the life of me I don't know what you mean by attaching it to cleats in the back of the rack. I'm a little hardware challenged here.

    Figure I find out about both approaches.

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    Yes the same styles of plastic tie wraps. Easy to cut off if you wanted to take the crate off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyFlorida View Post
    Harlond - I see the holes you drilled in the crate and the bolts. For the life of me I don't know what you mean by attaching it to cleats in the back of the rack. I'm a little hardware challenged here.
    The cleat (not sure that's the right word) is a piece of wood that goes on the underside of the rack and has bolt holes to match the rack. I used two cleats. Run the bolt through the crate and cleat and tighten until they grip the rack. I made cuts in the cleat so it fit the rack snugly, but you probably can get by without doing that.

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    I decided to give myself a birthday present and spring for a pair of wooden fenders and matching chain guard. Cody of Woody's Fenders did an amazing job on them, though the rear fender doesn't fit quite right (too tight), so he's going to re-do it for me for free. But wow, just a beautiful job on the woodwork.

    The other problem I'm having is attaching the chain guard at the rear. The metal cuff that came on the bike and attached the original chain guard is too loose and too low on the rear triangle. Anyone know where I would find a replacement that would fit better? I may just try using a zip tie.

    I'm definitely feeling a certain way about drilling into my Bates Crate, but Cole (the guy who makes them) said it shouldn't hurt. If I ever decide to put the crate on another bike, I can always replace the cork cover on the bottom and the wood beneath it should be fine.

    I also added a Nirve retro head lamp for the front. I don't know if it will hold up well in rainy conditions, but for $25 on sale, I figured it was worth a shot. It's very strange but it seems to give the bike a personality

    I will post pics for sure when the wood fenders and chain guard are done and properly fitted--they look so awesome, I'm really stoked!!

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    You need a P-clip to mount the rear of the chain guard. They are available at many electrical supply houses, hardware stores and home centers. They come in rubber coated steel, stainless steel and nylon.

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