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    Time for a new folder - Recommendations please

    I'm in a position to get another folder, or rather a replacement, and not having followed what's come onto the market in the last couple of years would appreciate some guidance.

    Requirements:

    1. Fun and quick. My Mezzo D9, even with a 56 chain ring, is fun but slow.
    2. Must fold to roughly the same size as a Brompton. This is on account of the available space and rules on UK trains.

    Is my only real option a Brompton (S6L)?

    Cheers

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    Yes...I have just bought another one..I bought one a few years ago but sold it and bought a BF Tikit instead..lovely bike for riding..not not for folding..Bromptons are just great..just bought one with new BWR hub..if you like to go fast 50 tooth chainwheel should be OK,..
    Chris

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    I am in the process of deciding the number of gears on my S-Type Brompton. Riding folders since 2004 and doing extensive research on a daily basis, if folding size is important to you, Brompton is the winner.

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    +1 if space is such a priority get a Brompton.

    I take my Reach in UK trains (and the tube) very often and I havent had a problem with slightly "larger" folders, surprisingly size is not a huge factor for me, the way you carry it is (ie lifting 12kg of the ground and carrying it for 500m its not nice)

    I recommend you go somewhere with loads of folding bikes like Fudge Cycles (London) or Avon Valley Cyclery (Bath) and try as many as you can, dont forget most of the time you will be riding the bike so in my humble opinion I say try them all.

    A good test I do is: can you take 1 hand off the handlebar? can you take 2? does it go straight when you push it along from the seat?

    Good luck!

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    Can't blame you especially if you paid close to list.

    I already got a quote of $299 for a new wheel build with the SA 8 speed (older 305% gear range) hub. At this point, I am trying to see how much less expensive this can be if I can source all the parts myself.

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    Actually I got it second hand and it was a pretty good deal. I can't do the conversion myself, so I'm loathed to pay 300 for the upgrade, especially when my LBSs are unenthusiastic about doing it, and warn about it possibly not going together properly.

    The Brompton wouldn't necessarily be my choice, but it rides better than I thought. I just can't face the hassle of crowded trains, as anyone who watched Dispatches on Channel 4 last night will understand. Not that I'm a regular commuter, but there's no point in having a folder if it won't fit.

    It's a shame that there isn't a big choice of 16"s.

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    2. Must fold to roughly the same size as a Brompton. This is on account of the available space and rules on UK trains.
    NB Tikit's fold is bigger,
    but looks like you can wheelbarrow it while folded, on the front wheel.

    Is my only real option a Brompton (S6L)?
    got the M and P bar models too.. [ S bar is too low for me]

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    Quote Originally Posted by ningnangnong View Post
    I'm in a position to get another folder, or rather a replacement, and not having followed what's come onto the market in the last couple of years would appreciate some guidance.

    Requirements:

    1. Fun and quick. My Mezzo D9, even with a 56 chain ring, is fun but slow.
    2. Must fold to roughly the same size as a Brompton. This is on account of the available space and rules on UK trains.

    Is my only real option a Brompton (S6L)?

    Cheers
    You could look around for a used Birdy Silver.. many had a Sachs Dual Drive hub.. that will give you all the gear range you need and still fold as small the Mezzo.. I have one here, but wrong side of the water for you.
    Last edited by BruceMetras; 03-22-11 at 11:08 AM.

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    I would fit an afline IHG, and Jojack tyres on to the Mezzo. But i would say that. If you add some shortened bull bars with tiagra racing levers it will really shift. Possibly consider going for a QR to accommodate some full sized bull bars or drops?? See the "Upgrading a mezzo / ori " thread or "dual drive Mezzo help" "Boston blackie" had an alfine mezzo upgrade done ,so he might be good to PM. The Mezzo can use far more standard parts although there are problems with fitting the excellent dual drive solution.
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    Birdie is a lovely bike ,but its bigger to fold than the Mezzo (or Brompton) by some way.

    Both the Mezzo and the Brompton can be made to go much faster than standard form. Most people find the Mezzo is generally a quicker bike standard, but s uffers from under gearing. If you can get a sach 3X7 or a IHG cheaply, then upgrading the mezzo might be a good option. Mezzo can be bought for around 500 new so the saving can be put towards the upgrades,plus you have the spares to keep or sell.I got a new Mezzo for 389!!
    Both Brompton or Mezzo can fit your requirements.
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    Dual drive Mezzo (GOLD), Dual Drive Mezzo with bullbars (black), White Brompton thingy with Dahon Androes stem and bull bars. Birdie (old sytle) 7 speed. Downtube NS8. Birdie red.

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    Thanks. I looked at the upgrade price and labour and it was coming in at over 350, so with the 56 chainring, 430 to upgrade, which I can't do. And since parts can't be done on Cyclescheme, I decided to go for a Brompton.


    Raw Laquer S6L heading my way in the next few weeks.

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