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IreneGR 04-09-11 03:38 AM

Using folding bike - What helmet should I buy?
 
Hello just bought my new folding bike :-) Next is to buy a helmet because I will use it in the city sometimes. What should I get?
Do you have any info about Dahon Pango helmet ? I liked it so much but it's somehow expensive, worth it's money? If you have purchased it, please give me a short review? Thank you!

Blackstrida_A_ 04-09-11 06:00 AM

Hello IreneGR,

no review, but some info to be found here:

http://www.stridaforum.com/forum/vie...6&t=2826#p4407

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji0YtG2uQU0


...the words of Mr. Mikael Colville-Andersen might be also interesting for you...
Please watch the video!

http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video...ville-andersen

With kind regards :)

lexm 04-09-11 07:00 AM

Thanks for posting that Mikael Colville-Andersen TEDx talk, BlackStrida. :thumb:

rhenning 04-09-11 08:01 AM

Buy one that fits your head and wear it all the time. The manufacturer is not as important as having one. Roger

Blackstrida_A_ 04-09-11 09:58 AM

Hello lexm,

we miss you in the Stridaforum!

Wearing a helmet is a very personal decision, I fully respect that.
But, in my opinion, Mr. Colville-Anderson is 100 percent right.

However, riding a folding bike I would prefer a folding helmet, in order to continue the style.

kamtsa 04-09-11 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackstrida_A_ (Post 12481678)
However, riding a folding bike I would prefer a folding helmet, in order to continue the style.

You have a folding **** and a non folding head. You can match the helmet style to the bike or the head. Your call. ;-)

cyclocommuter 04-09-11 11:51 AM

I agree with wearing a helmet being a very personal choice. I don't wear one when I am commuting on my folder but do wear one when I am using my road bike... force of habit I guess.

14R 04-09-11 12:32 PM

Try a few Nd buy the one that makes you feel good baes on looks, comfort and weight, not necessarily in any specific order.

vmaniqui 04-10-11 06:31 PM

check this... http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/arti...le+helmet.html

http://www.ehow.com/how_7522861_choo...le-helmet.html

http://www.ehow.com/list_6655344_rea...e-helmets.html

on why wearing a helmet is better for you:
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=111566 (might be too gross - i warned you).

Lalato 04-11-11 11:33 PM

@vmaniqui, looks like that guy took his eye off the road. That's not an argument for wearing a helmet. That's an argument for paying attention.

While I don't personally wear a helmet for cycling, I do own a Bern Brentwood that I use for roller derby (referee). From the research I did into cycle helmets, brand doesn't really matter. You just need to try on several until you find one that fits your head properly. Just as with motorcycle helmets, once a helmet meets the standards, everything else is aesthetics and weight.

brakemeister 04-12-11 09:04 AM

wear a helmet.
I am in it for the long run and I need all the potential customers I can get.
People with smashed in faces or crippled in a wheelchair are usually not able to ride a bike anymore.... hence not a potential customer.

I dont agree with any mandatory stuff. Let the idiots kill themselves, its Darvins law.
I dont like laws for all kinds of personal decisions I can make for myself. There is a lobby in the UK which are vehemently against Helmet use, mandatory helmet use, but it has become a discussion which actually make some people not to wear helmets because they think its uncool...

In any way ... dont let anybody tell you what to do. Or what helmet is the best for you. All Helmets which are sold in the US are tested and basically good. Again the best helmet is the one which fits perfectly, and guides the cooling wind around the head.

The Pango is not tested for the US and therefore not available. I tried it but it doesnt fit me well... which means nothing as I have a very big head ( full of hot air )
Thanks Thor

fietsbob 04-12-11 12:03 PM

Some where I saw a web picture of a bike helmet that was looking like a Black Beret.
Now that would be cool , no idea where it was cited from ,
If anyone comes across that , Post, SVP. :love:

vmaniqui 04-12-11 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalato (Post 12493725)
@vmaniqui, looks like that guy took his eye off the road. That's not an argument for wearing a helmet. That's an argument for paying attention.

yes, true not an argument but it could happen to anyone. how many times have you rode your bike and in a split second your eyes somehow wandered.....

BassNotBass 04-12-11 01:55 PM

If you have a folding bike you have to wear a folding helmet. Here's another:
http://www.brandish.tv/images/2007/0...ing_helmet.jpg

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=20744

Seriously though, just make sure you wear a helmet.

Amuro Lee 04-12-11 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackstrida_A_ (Post 12481122)
...the words of Mr. Mikael Colville-Andersen might be also interesting for you...
Please watch the video!

http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video...ville-andersen

This site might be interesting, too.;)
http://cyclehelmets.org/

BassNotBass 04-12-11 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackstrida_A_ (Post 12481122)
...the words of Mr. Mikael Colville-Andersen might be also interesting for you...
Please watch the video!

http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video...ville-andersen

I admit that I grew up in the 60s and 70s... a time when helmets were used mainly by thrill seeking motorcycle and car racers and certainly not by casual cyclists. As kids we played demolition derby on our bikes, had horrendous wrecks, the mere thought of which now sends a jolt from my taint down both legs, yet we survived and suffered no debilitating injuries.

During the 90's and into the mid 2000s while I was an endorphin junkie getting my fix by road racing motorcycles I crash tested several motorcycle helmets at +100mph spills and walked away while on the same weekend un-helmeted barhopping bikers lost their lives due to head injuries sustained in 5mph parking lot maneuvers.

I've been wearing cycling helmets since the early 80s when BELL came out with the first hardshell (leather hair-nets prior to that because they looked "pro") and never had to rely on one to protect my head during a crash. But I am glad I was wearing one last May when an angry motorist, who looked like he spent the last 10 years in prison doing nothing but lifting weights, stopped his pimped out Suburban, spat in my face and sucker punched me in the side of the head.

Had I not been wearing a helmet there's a good chance I would have hit the ground instead of being able to walk away. YMMV.

PDR 04-13-11 06:47 AM

I must admit that I would like a folding helmet to go with my Brompton. I bought a helmet mainly for the fast ride down hill to the railway station after work with lots of traffic.... in the morning it is uphill and I ride along back streets empty of traffic (and at a much slower pace)... rest of the time I tend not to bother too much wearing it.

I use the S-Type bag on the front of my Brompton and there is just enough room to fit in my Bell helmet in along with my MacBookPro & iPad2.... if I want to carry more stuff the helmet is clipped to the bagís carrying handle.... a flatter profile helmet would stow much easier.

The Dahon helmet looks good, but one size only and no adjustment, come on, how daft is that? :eek:

The stash helmet would not make any significant difference for the way I put the helmet in my bag as it is still quite broad across the crown. :(

I guess what Iím really waiting for is Brompton to come up with a design for a folding helmet.... I have every faith that they could get it right :thumb:

jur 04-13-11 05:08 PM

Or you could go for the star wars look with inflatable helmet

http://www.toxel.com/wp-content/uplo...irhelmet01.jpg

jefmcg 04-13-11 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BassNotBass (Post 12497570)
But I am glad I was wearing one last May when an angry motorist, who looked like he spent the last 10 years in prison doing nothing but lifting weights, stopped his pimped out Suburban, spat in my face and sucker punched me in the side of the head.

Had I not been wearing a helmet there's a good chance I would have hit the ground instead of being able to walk away. YMMV.

Seriously? This is an argument for wearing a bicycle helmet? Surely it's an argument for wearing a helmet at all times?

BassNotBass 04-14-11 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jefmcg (Post 12504416)
Seriously? This is an argument for wearing a bicycle helmet? Surely it's an argument for wearing a helmet at all times?

That was merely an anecdote. Take from it what you will.

AEO 04-14-11 06:02 AM

Is it just me, or do the first two posts look like one of those sale pitches, where a "random" person from the audience gets to do things on stage?

Amuro Lee 04-14-11 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jur (Post 12502854)
Or you could go for the star wars look with inflatable helmet

http://www.toxel.com/wp-content/uplo...irhelmet01.jpg

This is not a helmet actually.
http://www.hovding.com
http://www.facebook.com/hovdingsverige
http://www.youtube.com/user/Hovdings.../2/uVZ0qiA-jBY

Blackstrida_A_ 04-14-11 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AEO
Is it just me, or do the first two posts look like one of those sale pitches, where a "random" person from the audience gets to do things on stage?

shill = "Lockvogel"[german]

Dear AEO,

sadly I do not exactly understand what you meant, shame on me for bad english.

But, surely, I do not want to sell anything or get "something on stage".
Actually, I thought it's funny to reply a first post with a first post, I am interested in foldable helmets, so it started!
Meanwhile I wonder what happened with IreneGR, maybe she is some kind of a strange bird... also I`m wondering about the big interest.

However, I do not think to be a random person...please build your own impression here:
http://www.stridaforum.com/forum/sea...kstridaaustria
(photobucket is broken at the moment :crash: , sorry, no pics)

Thanks!

Have a safe ride :thumb:

Blackstridaaustria
[Strida user & Schlumpf fan]
http://www.schlumpf.ch/hp/schlumpf/schlumpf_engl.htm

tpelle 04-14-11 06:12 PM

I have to say that I enjoyed Mr. Colville-Andersen's talk - that's for posting that! I'd like to see the source of his statistics that purport to show that you are MORE likely to sustain injury wearing a helmet than by not.

I thought about this, and from my experience bicycling, I've "crashed" on a bike several times since I started riding again at age 54, and have no way of even guessing how many times as an adolescent rider when my bike was my sole transportation - even including being run down by a big old heavy American 1950's sedan! Two years ago I actually broke my kneecap falling off of my mountain bike. But in all of those crashes I never once hit my head.

But as an ex-EMT I know how devastating head injuries can be. My experience also infers to me that the crashes (of cars, bicycles, motorcycles, horses, and tractors) that produced the head injuries were severe and violent enough that serious injury likely would have occurred regardless if a helmet was worn or not.

But in the end, I just can't see how a helmet could be MORE LIKELY to cause injury than not wearing one would be. That would infer that the helmet itself causes the injury.

Can anyone explain this?

wandt 04-15-11 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpelle (Post 12508006)
I have to say that I enjoyed Mr. Colville-Andersen's talk - that's for posting that! I'd like to see the source of his statistics that purport to show that you are MORE likely to sustain injury wearing a helmet than by not.

I thought about this, and from my experience bicycling, I've "crashed" on a bike several times since I started riding again at age 54, and have no way of even guessing how many times as an adolescent rider when my bike was my sole transportation - even including being run down by a big old heavy American 1950's sedan! Two years ago I actually broke my kneecap falling off of my mountain bike. But in all of those crashes I never once hit my head.

But as an ex-EMT I know how devastating head injuries can be. My experience also infers to me that the crashes (of cars, bicycles, motorcycles, horses, and tractors) that produced the head injuries were severe and violent enough that serious injury likely would have occurred regardless if a helmet was worn or not.

But in the end, I just can't see how a helmet could be MORE LIKELY to cause injury than not wearing one would be. That would infer that the helmet itself causes the injury.

Can anyone explain this?

I agree with this. It may give some a false sense of confidence, but besides that I don't see how it could be more likely to cause injury. Also, it depends on what type of injury the helmet is trying to mitigate. From my understanding, most helmets are designed to prevent traumatic brain injury which still leaves a whole lot of less severe injuries.

As having both experienced a pretty good concussion (unconsciousness) and studying brain injury mechanisms, I definitely see the merit of helmets with the current state of bicycle infrastructure (or lack of) in the US. I do see the logic behind Mr. Colville-Anderson's argument, but I don't agree with it. A brain injury can have too many long-lasting effects to not where a helmet.


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