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mconlonx 05-17-11 09:29 AM

OK, so I was one of the few who got one of the prototypes. The one I received was the black S/M Nano. It came with chopped and flopped drop bars, cross levers, and the headtube shifters. At 5'7", I was on the upper end of fit for the bike and immediately needed to get the stem/bars higher. Installed a stem extender and it was perfect. Except it put the shifting significantly out of easy reach. Or I'm just too soft to get used to shifters located so low. In any case, everything got fixed up with for real bullhorn bars, bar end shifters, and relocating the brake levers:

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...4&d=1292539448

Rest of the bike remained stock while I owned it. If I'd kept it, some puncture protection tires would have been in order, and the saddle would have been swapped out. Maybe a longer seatpost. And if I hadn't got a screaming good price re-selling a grouppo that fell in my lap, it would have got upgraded to Dura Ace 8sp group...

monsterpile 05-17-11 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 762x54 (Post 12653585)
That's the one. I talked with the seller and he quoted specs of 20 x 1 1/8, 74mm wide. He didn't seem very knowledgeable about bikes in general. I decided not to gamble, but it looks like a good wheelset for only $60.00, if they will work.

Those would work great for my Shetland mini velo except the front spacing. I have seen spacer/extender kits sold for wheelsets like this to convert them to 100mm spacing. Is that something I could do making my own spacers to make the front wheel work or is it not worth it? these smaller wheels are pretty much new to me so I don't know what is out there.

james_swift 05-17-11 11:19 AM

You can use the existing axle and skewer from your Shetland front wheel, transplant it to the new wheel plus add 13mm of spacers to each side of the axle to bring the OD out to 100mm (3 x 4mm spacers and 1 x 1 mm spacer).

monsterpile 05-17-11 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by james_swift (Post 12654975)
You can use the existing axle and skewer from your Shetland front wheel, transplant it to the new wheel plus add 13mm of spacers to each side of the axle to bring the OD out to 100mm (3 x 4mm spacers and 1 x 1 mm spacer).

Ok that seems simple enough. I could probably transplant an axle from another wheel, but is there special spacers I need or just find something at the hardware store or what? I can probably figure it out, but why reinvent the wheel? =)

james_swift 05-17-11 12:55 PM

The axle spacers you'll want are 10mm, so I believe any standard hardware washer with a 10mm hole and 1mm thickness should work. Bring your axle with you to the hardware store for best fitting.

http://wheelsmfg.com/content/view/520/42/

monsterpile 05-17-11 02:33 PM

Thanks for all the info on those wheels.

james_swift 05-18-11 12:30 PM

Look what FedEx just dropped-off:

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...518_105636.jpg

:love:

themothman421 05-18-11 01:25 PM

^^^ Nice!

I'm trying to debate what I should upgrade first on mine...what do you think would give me the most bang for my buck? Or alternatively, what are the crappiest stock components that I should replace immediately? haha.

Also, I might be able to buy a cheap nitto stem from a friend, but I don't know what the stock handlebar size is...

james_swift 05-18-11 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by themothman421 (Post 12660324)
^^^ Nice!

I'm trying to debate what I should upgrade first on mine...what do you think would give me the most bang for my buck? Or alternatively, what are the crappiest stock components that I should replace immediately? haha.

Also, I might be able to buy a cheap nitto stem from a friend, but I don't know what the stock handlebar size is...

I would start with brakes and brake levers, then tires. I believe the bars are 26.0. I'll measure them tonight to confirm.

http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1757 (free shipping!)

themothman421 05-18-11 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by james_swift (Post 12660366)
I would start with brakes and brake levers, then tires. I believe the bars are 26.0. I'll measure them tonight to confirm.

http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1757 (free shipping!)

Nice! I hadn't even thought of getting new levers as well, but I'll for sure bite on these! Thanks again for measuring the bars, too.

punkgeek 05-18-11 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by james_swift (Post 12660366)

Wow - what a deal! Ordered. My crank and tires should be here on the weekend.

BruceMetras 05-18-11 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by punkgeek (Post 12661026)
Wow - what a deal! Ordered. My crank and tires should be here on the weekend.

Those look to be standard reach calipers ... the Nano looks to have long reach calipers (probably 47 to 57mm).. especially if it was originally designed as a 451 bike ... might want to check before ordering..

Dynocoaster 05-18-11 04:13 PM

They also have this brake set if you like to ride with your hands on top of the bars http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1688. Good point about checking first if the long reach are needed.

Dynocoaster 05-18-11 04:15 PM

Good deal on this crank set http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1559

james_swift 05-18-11 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynocoaster (Post 12661175)

That is a good deal. Note that they only come in 170mm and 175mm lengths.

NormanF 05-18-11 08:02 PM

At 5'7" I am at your height and the stock stem on my Mini Polo was too low. A stem extender solved the problem and got the stem up to the saddle height where I like it.

NormanF 05-18-11 08:03 PM

Swapping to 165 mm cranks is always a good idea with a small wheel bike. Great ground clearance is desirable for preventing pedal strike.

monsterpile 05-18-11 08:42 PM

I am pretty sure the brake levers are the same as my Shetland and I an actually like them. I actually ordered another pair from Bike Island (they have some great stuff). I would try a pair of better brake pads before spending any money on new brake calipers. I just put some Kool Stop Mountain pads on the front calipers tonight and I can now lock up my wheels even with the junk pads still on the rear. The difference was pretty amazing.

Dynocoaster 05-18-11 10:23 PM

I adjusted the front brake pads and cable and braking seemed fine to me for a new bike.

james_swift 05-18-11 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by themothman421 (Post 12660395)
Nice! I hadn't even thought of getting new levers as well, but I'll for sure bite on these! Thanks again for measuring the bars, too.

My calipers say the bars are 25.8 (call it a 26.0).

themothman421 05-19-11 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by james_swift (Post 12662798)
My calipers say the bars are 25.8 (call it a 26.0).

Good to know, thanks again.

If I were to change out the fork, would something like this work?

http://www.amazon.com/Redline-Fork-1...5831670&sr=1-1

james_swift 05-19-11 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by themothman421 (Post 12665368)
Good to know, thanks again.

If I were to change out the fork, would something like this work?

http://www.amazon.com/Redline-Fork-1...5831670&sr=1-1

I doubt the fork tube would be long enough. The head tube on the M/L Nano is crazy long.

subigo 05-19-11 02:18 PM

Yeah, the people saying you can replace the fork with a BMX fork or a regular road fork have no idea what they're talking about...

Dynocoaster 05-20-11 06:41 PM

I took the cheap plastic caps off the cranks and I had some nice Sakae caps. Looks better.

Dynocoaster 05-22-11 07:24 PM

I installed upright handle bars, got rid of the front derailleur, replaced the skewers with black ones and installed cork grips and put a couple of coats of Shellac on them. I found a light Shimano 52 tooth ring in my spares and will install that next.


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