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    New USA mini-velo: Origin 8 Bully



    Looks more Cannondale Hooligan than anything like the new Soma or Mercier. I'm guessing retail will be somewhere in the $350-400 range.

    From the Origin 8 site:

    Product Description
    The Bully is purpose built for the urban jungle. Just the right blend of size and agility make it perfect for tight spaces and city commuting. 20 inch wheels and a short wheel base let you spring in and out of traffic with ease. The compact design makes it very easy to move around or carry once you move indoors. The best part's the fun you'll have getting where you're going.

    Product Details
    4130 Chromoly, TIG-Welded, (Disc & V-Brake Compatible)
    Frame and fork are disc brake compatible
    Alloy linear pull brakes
    20 x 1.95'' tires with all purpose urban street tread design
    Shimano 7-speed shifting
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    Not diggin the frame. Too many tubes and angles...hard on the eyes to look at...just like the Cannondale Hooligan and Dahon Hammerhead. It does however look like just the ticket for rough urban street riding.

    One less-obvious major benefit of mini-velos for urban commuting is that you get the advantages of MTB-width tires, but without the size and storage requirements of a full size MTB bike.
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    Do I see horizontal dropouts?

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    Damn it... now I'll have to buy this. I like it. This was more of what I was hoping for when BD said they would start stocking mini-velos.

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    Thanks for posting this. Will there be more than one size available? 16" seat tube seems too small. I agree its kind of ugly, but I like the v-brakes and you could throw on disc brakes too which seems pretty great for that price and it looks capable of lots of different configurations. I hope this new offering means mini velo's are getting more popular. I hope BD comes out with something with V-brakes or cantis that isn't ugly.
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    I like the looks of the Bully more than BD's Mercier Nano by far. The Bully's frame looks balanced and more aesthetically pleasing in relation to the wheel size. The Nano just looks like a regular sized frame with small wheels attached... definitely not my thing.
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    I like it. The triangulated midsection of the frame took a bit of getting used to at first glance, but it's growing on me. I could definitely see one in my future.

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    I like it too better than the BD version.
    Horizontal dropouts, disc compatible, frame looks sturdy...
    Man, this mini velo thing is growing on me now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DVC45 View Post
    I like it too better than the BD version.
    I'm torn. The Nano has an 8sp rear and two rings up front, and I prefer drop bars. I like the C'dale hooligan as well, and this Origin 8 frame hits some decent notes, but misses for me on others--I actually prefer the Nano frame. Also the Nano is about $100 cheaper.

    OTOH, Bully has wider tires to begin with, disk brake adaptable, horizontal rear "dropouts." In a flat-ish urban situation, it would be hard not to give the Bully the nod, unless the bike was your "only bike" and you wanted something to get you far beyond city limits.
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    I like the look of it. Frame shape means more step over clearance. Steel frame - nice.

    I wonder what the tyres are. I don't see any point in tread of that type for city riding, plus there's no sidewall reflective paint. Not good.

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    I like it. If I was still living in NYC I would pick one up in a heartbeat.

    The geometry looks similiar to my wife`s Louis Garneau MV1. The bike is absolutely great IMO for casual urban riding. Like a folder, it is nimble and quick but without any flex or squeeks or creaks, or any of the problems associated with latches/hinges or brakes and cable length. Despite getting a lot of abuse and being the bad weather go-to bike for the past couple years it has proven to be very durable and problem free. It`s really a pleasure to ride, and I imagine this one - with an upgrade or two (new tires especially), would be a really great city bike.

    Also, I can`t tell for sure but those rims might be the same or similiar. They seem to be common on the lower priced small wheeled bikes here. If so, they are strong. I often put a lot of weight, overload really, the front rack and to date no problems. The wheels run as true as the day I got the bike. I`d bet the Bully, would be a strong little workhorse with the right cargo carrying options.


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    The Bully and the Nano are pretty different bikes. The Nano is built to be a mini velo Road bike. The Bully is built for urban riding and much more versatile mini velo. With upgrades the Bully could be a nice road bike as well. It depends on what you want and if you are wanting it to do something pretty much out of the box or as a platform for your desires. One thing I noticed about the bully is the seat stay mounting spots for a rack are much lower than the BD mini velos. I still would rather hold out for something I find more aesthetically pleasing, but at that price and the way its designed its a really great bike.
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    Someone want to tell me if this is out yet? I don't have a C'dale dealer around to look at the Hooligan (over budget anyway). And any estimates on how much it would be to convert to IGH and disc brakes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    Someone want to tell me if this is out yet? I don't have a C'dale dealer around to look at the Hooligan (over budget anyway). And any estimates on how much it would be to convert to IGH and disc brakes?


    The bully ? ... J&B has 'em.

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    I'm aware that J&B imports/distributes the Origin 8 Bully. What I don't know is if the Bully is actually available or is it merely coming to market in the near future?

    There are a few LBS' in town that show up using the dealer locator function, but none are Origin 8 dealers. It's my experience it's easier for me to do the leg work, then find an LBS that will actually order it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    I'm aware that J&B imports/distributes the Origin 8 Bully. What I don't know is if the Bully is actually available or is it merely coming to market in the near future?

    There are a few LBS' in town that show up using the dealer locator function, but none are Origin 8 dealers. It's my experience it's easier for me to do the leg work, then find an LBS that will actually order it.
    So... they (j&b) would print something in their catalog, that they cannot get/sell/ship ...

    Thats awesome cust. serv. esp. with a certain big box store trying to takeover the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    I'm aware that J&B imports/distributes the Origin 8 Bully. What I don't know is if the Bully is actually available or is it merely coming to market in the near future?

    There are a few LBS' in town that show up using the dealer locator function, but none are Origin 8 dealers. It's my experience it's easier for me to do the leg work, then find an LBS that will actually order it.
    In stock with J&B right now.
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    How much and can you order from them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynocoaster View Post
    How much and can you order from them?
    J&B is a distributor, no direct retail sales. Call around to LBSs and find one who has a J&B account and would be willing to order an Origin8 bike, ask them to order one for you. I'd expect retail price in the realm of $400-$450. There's not a lot of these...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
    J&B is a distributor, no direct retail sales. Call around to LBSs and find one who has a J&B account and would be willing to order an Origin8 bike, ask them to order one for you. I'd expect retail price in the realm of $400-$450. There's not a lot of these...
    Saturday we sold two of our three KHS Mochas so we'll be ordering a few more folding bikes. Since we deal with J&B I'm hoping to order an Origin 8 F1 Select or F3 Sport just to check one out. Probably won't order a Bully... a folding bike is mind blowing enough for the bicycling community in this city.
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    Price break after 10 ... Goup buy, anyone ? : o)

    Wholesale, is less than the nano retail ... : o(
    Last edited by martinus; 06-23-11 at 06:52 PM.

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    I stopped at the newest bicycle shop in town today and it was a treat. Its a total hole in the wall place manned by a guy that worked for a number of different shops in town over the years. He sold used stuff consignment bikes and some lower end new stuff. He also happened to have a Origin 8 Bully. I didn't ride it, but it was awesome to see it in person. It was $350 I believe. I was riding my new Citta Gazelle and he was interested in that. We stood around talking bikes for at least a half hour before another customer came in so I left. At some point I'll probably go back and test out the Bully, but part of me doesn't want the temptation of getting one. Its a beast urban assault type bike like it looks like in the pics and its not light, but thats not what it was built for.

    The guy is generally focused in selling different stuff not the same thing all the other shops are selling. He is a Bob Jackson dealer and claimed there are only 3 of them in the whole country. He had quite the perspective on bikes and some amusing comments and stories. Anywho I thought i would share. If anyone has any questions about the Bully or want to know more I'll probably be riding by there again at some point in the near future maybe even tomorrow.
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