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Old 07-10-11, 09:37 PM   #1
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BF Pocket Sport/Expedition/Companion Select 2011 or Xootr Swift

My wife and I have been riding our 08 Dahon Speed P8 (we each have our own) for about 2 yrs now and I am itching to get a different folder. We went to bfold and checked out some folders and have our eyes on the Pocket Sport and Expedition (both @ $1250), which according to Peter, BF no longer makes (bfold still has one each). I am also interested in the Xootr Swift due to the praises on this forum. Upon further browsing on BF's site I saw the Pocket Companion Select 2011 and it's priced just below $1k (w/out saddle & pedals?), which is the range that we want to spend right now. I would appreciate it if any member who has experience with these folders can shed some light on the pros and cons of these folders? Any advice or suggestions welcome. Thanks!

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Old 07-10-11, 09:59 PM   #2
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What sort of riding do you have in mind?
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Old 07-10-11, 10:06 PM   #3
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Just leisurely riding on paved surface and/or bike paths. Lately we've been riding with two friends on full size road bikes and I do need the new bike to be at least as fast as my P8 just so I can keep up with them. Might want to try out on the century with it too. Last two times we rode with these guys we did ~50 miles each trip on our P8s.
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I like My Pocket Llama, though the High BB is something to get used to.

I have to slide off the saddle at all stops, as even tippy toe doesn't get my foot on the ground.

1.75 -20" tires, at 80 psi, it rolls just fine,,
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Think youll have a more forgiving ride/frame with the BF, it being steel and less rigid than the Swift. But that may be a negative for you. Folded size will be better with the BF, as the swift doesnt get as small without unbolting the rear triangle. Lifetime warranties both, possibly easier to tour with BF as more brazeons and accessories for this available from them. Swift is cheaper as you know. Gearing out of the box better with BF, think someone says aftermarket front derailleur mount exists for Swift, of course this option would be standard with BF. Tire clearance could be similar for both. I cant remember - does swift have water bottle mounts? BF will have 2. Depending on your size, top tube length for Swift may or may not suit you. Different sizes for BF. Seat post wont be an issue with either unless youre > 2m.

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I absolutely love my Xootr Swift and highly recommend it. it rides just like my "regular" bikes but folds up for the train or subway (or my trunk!).

it is an 8-speed, but for about $125 you can add a front derailleur for lower gearing.

If you really want drop bars and super-high gearing, Bike Friday provides that (for a price). I have basically turned my Swift into the equivalent of a BF Pocket Rocket by replacing the drivetrain, bars, brakes, shifters, and wheels. It is nearly as fast as my road bike.

To JimBeans83 question, Swift has a water bottle mount on the riser. I bought mine from a guy who was 6'4" and i am 5'9" - just a stem swap did the trick.

good luck...remember that Xootr has a 30-day money back guarantee no questions asked
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This just came up on the bay pretty good deal. http://cgi.ebay.com/Bike-Friday-AIR-...item1e6519af29
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btw, if steel desired, always human powered machines steel version of swift option
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Thanks for the replies. I am having such a hard time deciding. Will definitely try out at least one of the BFs and Xtoor before moving forward.
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