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    Death by disrayliegh - no folding content

    There are times in everyone's life when the Gods conspire. I cycled to the Mercedes dealer on my road bike today, to whack down a deposit on a little sedan, then cycling down the hill on my road bike at about 25 mph, I changed up and all hell broke loose.

    There was a loud crash from the back of the bike, and the rear wheel locked up. My superior 'I'm going to die' skills brought the bike to halt, though the shimmying black streak down the road was 10 metres long. My laundry bill will be longer.

    The road bike had a new 700c wheel fitted by me yesterday. Not thinking that the disrayliagh limit screws would now be a bit out, off I set at a giddy lick, my head full of the wonders of E-class Einspritzwagens.

    There is a fad for removing the 'dork disk' spoke protector on bikes in order to.... to what? Don't!

    Cost of dork disk: £3.00. Spoke/chain interface broke one spoke and nearly chewed through the rest. Bike wheel now in hospital for a rebuild. My disrayliagh may be bent.
    And, the road was busy. Had I veered under a truck, I would now be writing this to you from The Other Side. My last einspritzwagen would be a hearse.

    Love your dork disk.

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    I love your use of the term "disrayliegh," thanks for that smile. I'm wondering how many folks here realize that the name of the album by Cream, "Disraeli Gears" was taken from a corruption of the term "derailleur gears" by one of Cream's roadies or somebody in their entourage. (I think I got this tidbit from an interview with Ginger Baker in some video on Cream... could be inaccurate, but a nice little bit of trivia for those who still love the classic rock.)

    Is this where you got "disrayliegh," or is there some other common usage of which I am unaware?

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    That sounds terrifying, snafu. I'm glad to hear you are in one piece and not writing from The Other Side. Did you get bruised up?

    Thanks for the lesson on dork disks. I'm curious about those "I'm going to die" skills, though. They sound quite useful. Be careful out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiten View Post
    That sounds terrifying, snafu. I'm glad to hear you are in one piece and not writing from The Other Side. Did you get bruised up?

    Thanks for the lesson on dork disks. I'm curious about those "I'm going to die" skills, though. They sound quite useful. Be careful out there.
    Death comes swiftly from the skies.... Aged 11, a school chum and I built me an old bike out of bits. It had one gear, and one brake at the pointed end. For a year I roamed about on this, until one day, going down a very steep hill, I put on the (only) brake. Both brake blocks shot out forward, for we had fitted the brake shoes with the open end facing forwards. This is Wrong.

    The bike rocketed down the hill. I put both feet down, but the road tore off one of my shoes. Death loomed. I aimed the bike at a lamp-post and it collided with me, at 30 miles per hour.

    The bike was mangled beyond recognition. I had one broken arm, a bust collar bone, and multiple, bleeding punctures. I had to walk the three miles home, leaking fluid, and hurting.

    I heart dork disks. I may even put one on the front wheel as a juju to ward off the Magnetic Demon which lives deep in the Earth's core. There is something about gravity and bicycles which is deeply dangerous. One, or the other should be banned.

    Oddly, out the day before on the folder, the handlebar post on my Bitsa Bro-Yama-Ton folded up as I mounted, causing me to collapse in a cursing undignified heap on a busy High Street.

    I am wondering whether it is time to hang up my bicycling trousers. This gravity business is getting wearisome.
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    "Is this where you got "disrayliegh," or is there some other common usage of which I am unaware?"

    Feeling mischevious a couple of years ago I started a thread which roundly cursed hub gears and all those who used them. As the flak flew, it became clear that no-one could correctly spell derailléur. Disrayliagh, seemed quite close. There are plenty of variants on here.

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    Off to a mercedes dealer? What kind of student are you, anyway?

    Glad to hear you are not dead. HPFBS will not out live you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jefmcg View Post
    Off to a mercedes dealer? What kind of student are you, anyway?

    Glad to hear you are not dead. HPFBS will not out live you.
    Thank you. I'm studying 20th Century Critical Art Theory at Winchester. It involves sitting at the back of the tutorials, looking at Mercedes brochures. I think the blue ones are quite nice. (They do a matching bike, too)

    My chum just mailed me: Fingernail sliced off while repairing puncture. She got her paws into the disrealium (note use of Latin singular) while the wheel was spinning.

    The bicycles are turning against us. We must flee.

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    He's off again!

    My favourite Victorian Prime minister is an internally geared hub.
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    Well, I just switched to an internal hub myself, but I'll accept your curses with pleasure. It's got little miniature disrollers inside of it I think.

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    I don't mind what people have on their bikes - I quite enjoyed the pleasing thrum of the bubba-hubba on the Brompton. My only annoyance was that it weighed more than Jupiter, and contained three of the wrong gears.

    In Olden Tymes in England, the SA hubs were called 'Tin Cans' - and timed sprints using them, were undertaken. They were seen as The Marvel of The Age in 1902, and were hugely popular. Still are, of course. If I build another MTB, I might aim for Shimano 7 (?) speed hub. Scraping horse poo out of the cog-swapper is no fun.

    The IGH, I wonder, still needs a dork disc in case the chain jumps off.
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    No dork disk needed.
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    °Empty drums make a lot of noice... (Old Hungarian proverb).

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    Which does not mean that you shouldn't fit one anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jefmcg View Post
    Off to a mercedes dealer? What kind of student are you, anyway?
    One who posts a family crest as their avatar...?

    Should always check derailleur adjustment after install of a new wheel, including/especially limit screws. Either shop is at fault--shame on them--or user is at fault--shame on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snafu21 View Post
    Thank you. I'm studying 20th Century Critical Art Theory at Winchester. It involves sitting at the back of the tutorials, looking at Mercedes brochures. I think the blue ones are quite nice. (They do a matching bike, too)

    My chum just mailed me: Fingernail sliced off while repairing puncture. She got her paws into the disrealium (note use of Latin singular) while the wheel was spinning.

    The bicycles are turning against us. We must flee.
    How do you repair a puncture with the wheel spinning?

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    " One who posts a family crest as their avatar...?"

    I see your knowledge of heraldry is as deficient as your attempt at social integration, Mr Pedantic. My family coat of arms is here. Crest is a brand of toothpaste.

    "Either shop is at fault--shame on them--or user is at fault--shame on you."

    Yes, thank you for the pointers. Shame is indeed a sobering experience. Whenever I make a mistake, I beat myself with a stick, and make myself stand in a corner. Works every time.

    Have you got a dog?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russcoles11 View Post
    How do you repair a puncture with the wheel spinning?
    I don't know. I think centrifugal force spins the tube out. My dear chum is new to bikes, and bless her, was attempting her first repair. She has managed it with only minor damage to her limbs. I'm delighted she didn't post a message on the internet saying 'I get my husband to fix my punctures', although she is wise enough to possess only the puncture, not the husband.

    She has though, got a dork disk.
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    You have somehow displeased the cycling gods and the only way to gain back their favour is to make a burnt offering under the next full moon and your best success will come if you choose the right offering... a Huffy or a recumbent will do nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    You have somehow displeased the cycling gods and the only way to gain back their favour is to make a burnt offering under the next full moon and your best success will come if you choose the right offering... a Huffy or a recumbent will do nicely.
    As a penance I may start a charity which gives out dork disks to the mechanically challenged. I've just ordered three from Flee-Bay.

    Quote for rebuilding the wheel was more than the price of a handbuilt new wheel. What is the wonderful world of bicycles coming to? I'm going to do it myself. What can possibly go wrong?

    How I moan and whimper at my serious departure from dork-diskdom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snafu21 View Post
    As a penance I may start a charity which gives out dork disks to the mechanically challenged. .
    No, better I think would be a charity that provides skate boards for OAP's and assorted aged aunties & uncles who want to keep up active lifestyle.

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    Whew for a minute there I though this was about Former Prime Minister of England Benjamin Disraeli ( Disrayleigh)and belonged in politics and religion. Glad you are unhurt and only need new shorts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James H Haury View Post
    I though this was about Former Prime Minister of England Benjamin Disraeli ( Disrayleigh)and belonged in politics and religion. Glad you are unhurt and only need new shorts.
    I don't think Disraeli and shorts ever mixed.
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    Darn . . . dork discs were the only vintage NOS parts I've been able to buy cheap on eBay, I see those days might be coming to a close.
    Always searching for Lotus literature and memorabilia for use at www.VintageLOTUSbicycles.com, can you help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snafu21 View Post
    " One who posts a family crest as their avatar...?"

    I see your knowledge of heraldry is as deficient as your attempt at social integration, Mr Pedantic. My family coat of arms is here. Crest is a brand of toothpaste.

    "Either shop is at fault--shame on them--or user is at fault--shame on you."

    Yes, thank you for the pointers. Shame is indeed a sobering experience. Whenever I make a mistake, I beat myself with a stick, and make myself stand in a corner. Works every time.

    Have you got a dog?
    So you DO have a familial coat of arms...? Huh.

    I would say, rather, my familiarity with heraldry matches your familiarity with derailleur adjustments...

    Quote Originally Posted by snafu21 View Post
    I'm going to do it myself. What can possibly go wrong?
    Ref.: your BF username...

    You have a hard time with derailleur adjustments and you're going to attempt to build a wheel? Godspeed, sir, and good luck.

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    Ok, let me put some, er, closure on this now wandering little thread. The problem, you will remember was initially a chain coming off at speed and locking up the rear wheel, resulting in a near death experience. No Dork Disk (spoke protector) added to the woes.

    Damage: bent disrayliagh, eight chewed spokes and one snapped, egg shaped wheel, and tyre worn through at the flat spot. I rebuilt the wheel with new spokes last night, and in truing it up on the bike noticed a jumping chain. Yup, there was solid-locked link on the chain. As the desraiilur was hopping about at the start of the ride, I now think that the limit screws and disraylium adjustment was ok, (the drivetrain was checked when I changed the wheel initially) and the stiff chain simply hopped off the cassette, causing the damage.

    The bike now has a DORK DISK , a new chain, nine spokes, new disragliater, tube and tyre and a quite reasonable wheel re-build, I think, given that I did it myself. It's a lot of work and expense, for the price of a dork disk which should have been there in the first place. (nag nag nag)

    I have also bought all the dork disks on Ebay. China is stepping up production.

    And now, back to your regular programming: Mr Pedantic ^^^ will continue to entertain you with his homely wife-beating wit and erudition.

    Goodbye!
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    Goodbye? Wait, what, where are you going? Come back! I promise I will love my dork disk (maybe even more now that I won't be able to find one on eBay).

    Good to hear you put everything back together, including dork disk.

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