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    Tern Verge S11

    verges11.jpg

    I am drooling over the specs:

    General Info
    Speeds: 11
    Weight: 12.3 kg (27.1 lb)
    Folding Time: 10 s
    Folding Size: 42 x 79 x 72 cm (16.5" x 31.1" x 28.3")
    Frame Sizes: One Size
    Gear Inches: 26" - 106"
    Distance: Seatpost to Handlebar: Min: 580 mm (22.8") Max: 730 mm (28.7")
    Distance: Saddle to Pedal: Min: 690 mm (27.2") Max: 950 mm (37.4")
    Suggested Rider Height: 142 - 193 cm (4'8" - 6'4")
    Max Rider Weight: 110 kg (243 lb)

    Transmission
    Shifter(s): Shimano Alfine, 11 spd.

    Crankset: FSA Gossamer, 46T
    Cassette/Freewheel: Shimano
    Bottom Bracket: American Classic, ISIS
    Chain: RustBlock, GST coated, 3/32"
    Pedals: MKS EZY QR
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    Very nice but you'll have to bear in mind that it's well over a kilo heavier than your Curve SL.

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    I like it.

    Price?

    Wouldn't mind a belt drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chagzuki View Post
    Very nice but you'll have to bear in mind that it's well over a kilo heavier than your Curve SL.
    Oh, I realize that its heavier than the Curve SL. But for my commute purposes would suit better. The roads I have to bike on aren't exactly the prettiest or smoothest. So I would gladly give up some weight for comfort. I currently ride a 20" derailleur folding bike that I purchased at an auction for $80 bucks! -- Yes I'll keep telling everyone how much i got it for, it was such a "steal" as one member put it -- and it rides great, but there is nothing like a brand new internal hub geared bike with that awesome range.

    Wish it came in all black though. I'll guess its somewhere in the neighborhood of $1200.
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    That bike looks sweet, but chunky. 27.1 lbs isn't fun to climb up steps with, not that the holy grail of 9-10kg/20 lbs is much better, but makes a difference. But for a "boot bike", that doesn't matter too much I guess, given that sexy 11-gear IGH ya get.

    Maybe I ride in too much of a BMX style, but I tend to do a lot of standing for bumpy surfaces since I'm in no race when I ride...kinda funny how some cyclists wanna race you on paved trails, I've noticed. lol Your roads must be something awful.

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    Very pretty, but for me, and this is just me, this isn't a bike I'd use for loaded touring or riding centuries, so I'd gladly swap the Shimano Alfine 11 hub for a Sturmey-Archer XRF8(W) and take a $500 savings.

    Quote Originally Posted by sudoshift View Post
    The roads I have to bike on aren't exactly the prettiest or smoothest. So I would gladly give up some weight for comfort.
    Tern's marketing has emphasized how stiff their bikes will be: frame, fork, handle post, hinges. IMO any comfort of this stiff 20" wheel bike over rough pavement would come from Big Apples and/or a suspension seat post (which the Verge S11 does not have as factory equipment).
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    Quote Originally Posted by sudoshift View Post
    ... I'll guess its somewhere in the neighborhood of $1200.
    At $1,200 it would be one of the least expensive Alfine 11 bikes currently available. For comparison, the MSRP for the 2012 Raleigh Cadent i11 is $1,650. High quality folders are usually a bit more than high quality non-folders with the same components.

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    Oh yeah if you guys want to see a taste of the price go the the tern press website:
    http://ternbicycles.com/news/2011/08...best-bike-gear

    scroll down to the tern bike from the outside magazine article and you can see their 2nd top of the line x20 bike with the SRAM red drivetrain $3500! woooo these things are going to be high end. Oh yeah they are heavier than the dahons because the hinges are supposed to last longer (replaceable bushing) and much stiffer. So I think they are making their bikes to be more of a long term investment.

    and with the price and quality of these bikes I don't think we can be comparing them with dahons but more with bike friday's and bromptons.

    I myself am eyeing the verge duo and the s11. I need ride quality over a super fold since I don't multi mode commute but would like to store it under my desk at work.

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    I wouldn't exaggerate the build quality of Bromptons, sounds like these will be superior in many respects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azreal911 View Post
    Oh yeah if you guys want to see a taste of the price go the the tern press website:
    http://ternbicycles.com/news/2011/08...best-bike-gear
    "..the Verge X20, might only have 20-inch wheels (designed by wheel master Rolf Dietrich), but it's spec'd out with road riding finery"

    It's interesting that the magazine needs to apologizes for the 20" wheels.

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    1200 I wish ..... lets have a container full of them ....
    I pretty sure that will be a close to 2000 dlr bike instead .... and well worth it as well....
    but at this moment its all pretty much guessing what the prices will do ....

    one has to be careful comparing prices anyhow..... here we have last year prices ( vector 1600 to 2600 dlr ) and comparing these to next year prices..... plus one really has to see both bikes next to eachtother as well.... preferably riding both ( which is not possible as the vectors never made it to US shores .... )

    I think the prices will be very much in line what you will get for your money. No freebies but good value !
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    Nice,but 27lbs and you have to carry it. I replaced my Novara(Dahon) Flyby with a Brompton because not only was the Brommie 3lbs lighter,I can roll it along folded without having to lift it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynaryder View Post
    Nice,but 27lbs and you have to carry it. I replaced my Novara(Dahon) Flyby with a Brompton because not only was the Brommie 3lbs lighter,I can roll it along folded without having to lift it.
    the brommie was lighter ? 3 lbs even ?
    thats a new one to me ..... unless you compare a titanium single speed with the Rei 8 speed internal can with fenders carriers pump and whatnotelse ....maybe a couple of panniers ?

    the small increase in weight for the Terns are most likely in a more realistic way of weighing the bikes, and a small percentage as well in beefed up folding mechanisms ..... for anybody who is using his bike every day these added weights here and there are going to mean that there is extra security in the durability and also serviceability in case you want to overhaul the bike after every 7500 miles.

    well worth it for everybody who wants a product which will stand the time

    as for pushing the bike.... I have no problems pushing my Curve ( or Mu ) on the seatpost.....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDbJ1RM8s9k
    as somebody else here demonstrates .... doesnt seem to be all that difficult to me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by brakemeister View Post
    the brommie was lighter ? 3 lbs even ?
    thats a new one to me ..... unless you compare a titanium single speed with the Rei 8 speed internal can with fenders carriers pump and whatnotelse ....maybe a couple of panniers ?
    Sorry,2 pounds. Checked my chart,and according to my digital fish scale my S6L weighs 25lbs 13oz,and the Flyby weighed 27lbs 14oz. The Bommie is a 6sp,all steel,fenders/minipump,with Kojak tires. The rear wheel of the Flyby,w/o tire weighed 5lbs 6oz on its own.

    Quote Originally Posted by brakemeister View Post
    as for pushing the bike.... I have no problems pushing my Curve ( or Mu ) on the seatpost.....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDbJ1RM8s9k
    as somebody else here demonstrates .... doesnt seem to be all that difficult to me....
    Interesting. Never thought to try that. However,the Brommie still rolls much easier;you just slide it around or pull it by the handlebar behind you like rolling luggage. The vid shows you having to balance the Dahon like a handtruck.

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