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Old 09-01-11, 09:31 AM   #1
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Sore sit bone

I'm riding my Tokyo more (Yay!) but I'm getting a little sore (Boo!). Which is the best fix?

1. Buy some bike shorts with padding - I usually wear regular shorts and underwear.
2. Buy a new saddle. (suggestions for what to look for?)
3. Buy a gel padded seat cover.
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Old 09-01-11, 10:00 AM   #2
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Gel saddles cause more problems than they solve. Saddle fit can be a difficult thing. I finally found a saddle that works for me so I bought three for my most used bikes.
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Old 09-01-11, 10:01 AM   #3
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How long are your rides?

If you are getting sore on short rides (<15 miles), I'd suggest a new saddle. Saddles are like running shoes, what works best for person A wont work best for Person B. Or, just HTFU, as it take a bit to get adjusted to riding on a bike. It goes away within a week or so of riding.

If it's longer rides, and you are fine with shorter rides, I'd suggest bike shorts with padding. No need for the spandex ones, I've found mountain biking shorts work well, and they look like regular khaki shorts.

I would not do gel padded saddles, unless you never intend on doing more than 3-5 miles per ride. They do increase chafing issues.
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Old 09-01-11, 10:04 AM   #4
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I heard that gel padded seat covers do not work. Of course I didn't listen and bought one and it did absolutely nothing. I think 1 and 2 will help tremendously. I will probably buy a new saddle for my bike (when I buy it) so will be interested to see everyone's recommendations.
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Old 09-01-11, 01:09 PM   #5
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try brooks saddle. it's quite expensive but worth it.
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Old 09-01-11, 01:43 PM   #6
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try brooks saddle. it's quite expensive but worth it.
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Flyer or B12
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brooks b67[springs] or b68

the best investment i made for the bottom line !

I use to have a gel got rid of it in a week, then a vintage Avocet "leather" saddle a Touring II version leather skin foam in the inside....no good it felt like the old gel seat...so I sold it.

now im sitting on my investment pedaling away merryly
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Old 09-01-11, 02:48 PM   #8
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I've been riding to work - 10 miles each way, but consider that a Tokyo is pretty slow, even with upgraded gears, so I'm on the saddle for a little more than an hour each way.

Okay, the seat cover is out - thanks for the warning, folks. So I'm looking at new saddles, maybe Brooks - what should I look for - how do you choose? I doubt that the LBS will let me try one for a week, then another one if the first one doesn't work out.
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Thousands of saddles, billions of different people with a back side.

Hard to say which saddle works with who-evers Butt..
more a conversation between the body part involved, and the saddle

posture determines part of the choice , more upright, the wider the saddle.

Brooks have to be taken care of, vinyl or thin leather.. over foam on a nylon base.
ones do not need you to worry about weather..

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doubt that the LBS will let me try one for a week
maybe for a day ? , lots of bike shops to visit,
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What has worked for me... a person who hasn't owned a pair of cycling shorts in over 20 years but has a bike as his main mode of transportation:

My favorite saddle for semi-upright commuting is a Brooks. Comfort depends on the pants/shorts and underwear that I'm sporting. I do not wear anything that has a seam anywhere near where I contact the saddle. That has worked for me.
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Old 09-01-11, 04:42 PM   #11
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If you already have a saddle sore then nothing will work until it heals.
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I have a Brooks B67 on my Tokyo - no regrets. Great for the upright seating position on this bike. Do not let the price throw you - you will have the saddle long after the Tokyo is gone/upgraded - a true investment
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Never rode a Tokyo but if the ride is too harsh you may want to look also into improving the suspension (wider low pressure tires, sprung Brooks, thudbaster, etc).

Gel saddle does not count.
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Try adjusting your saddle to where its nose is pointing downwards just a little. This helped me get the most cushion out of my saddle, besides taking away the pressure to my groin.
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actual sores , carbuncles are skin bacteria moving into pores, from the surface.

washing with surgeon's scrub kept my crotch clean , that and daily changes
to clean cycling shorts, I was OK on long wandering bike tours lasting months.
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Happens to me on my Gotham1 sometimes if I do 20+ miles a day. Nothing that bothers me to much though. Is the upgraded Citizen seat they have on the site good for the Tokyo?
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Old 09-02-11, 08:07 AM   #17
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Try adjusting your saddle to where its nose is pointing downwards just a little. This helped me get the most cushion out of my saddle, besides taking away the pressure to my groin.
Actually, I did that last year, and it helped - at least with the numbness where you don't want numbness.

Tokyo's saddle mount is pretty standard so pretty much any saddle ought to fit. But ccsdc83, I don't think I want to replace with a seat from Citizen, when I have local bike shops with lots of saddles that I can see and buy on the spot, no waiting, no guessing. Guess it's off to the LBS this weekend to see what they've got.
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I bought 3 Brooks B68 for my bikes and so far they are working out just fine.
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Actually, I did that last year, and it helped - at least with the numbness where you don't want numbness.

Tokyo's saddle mount is pretty standard so pretty much any saddle ought to fit. But ccsdc83, I don't think I want to replace with a seat from Citizen, when I have local bike shops with lots of saddles that I can see and buy on the spot, no waiting, no guessing. Guess it's off to the LBS this weekend to see what they've got.
Oh yea check the local shop for sure. I always get my stuff local they are well stocked and the owner is extremely helpful.
Good luck on the search.
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make sure sadlle is facing flat for upright riding or slightly down for more aerodynamic position.
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Bad News!!! Finding the most comfortable (okay - least uncomfortable) saddle can be the most difficult problem in biking. Setting things up correctly is important. Here's a good article on the subject by the late, legendary Sheldon Brown.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/saddles.html[/url]

The Brooks B-17 (classic tensioned leather) is expensive but works well for me. By this I mean than the pain is never unbearable and I have not become impotent. IMHO, that's as good as a bike saddle gets.

My wife rode a women's B-17 for 600 miles and went back to the Selle Itallia gel saddle that came with her bike. Eventually, she put the gels on 2 more bikes, including her BF folder.

My brother-in-law swears by his oversize, spongy saddle with big coil springs under it. I wouldn't be caught dead on such a saddle.

There have been split saddles, weirdly shaped saddles, even kits that require photo-copying one's naked butt and sending the picture to a company that then makes a saddle to fit that particular butt. (I have not heard about particularly good results from that procedure.)

And so it goes. You just keep trying until you find something you can live with. Lance Armstrong once remarked that his cancer experience made him a winner because it taught him to suffer more pain than his competition. I don't think the average rider needs to b e willing to suffer to that degree, but I do think than riding a bike more than a few miles entails getting used to at least a little discomfort in the sit-bone area. If the rest of the experience is worth it you keep riding.

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Old 04-28-12, 02:10 PM   #22
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There are some pretty good gel seat covers - one that I know is popular has a depression in the middle that women find comfortable and it is Ok for guys too. Padded cycling underwear is useful and allows one to wear ordinary shorts instead of those skin tight things that most of us should not be wearing.
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Since a few people have resurrected this thread, I thought I'd give an update:
I bought a new saddle - no-name brand, but I got to try it at the LBS, and it seemed comfortable. Now I've ridden it round-trip to work a number of times - about 7 miles each way, and on some longer pootles. It is a good improvement over the stock saddle. Not perfect, but if I take a break every hour or so, I don't experience any lasting soreness. Thanks for all the advice.
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I bought a Serfas wide, gel saddle from REI and I ride for much longer because it is so comfortable. REI said I could bring it back if it wasn't working but I plan on keeping it.
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