Man About Town
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Nashville, TN, USA
Bikes: '04 Dahon Speed P8; '01(?) Specialized Crossroads A1 Sport; '83 Peugeot P6 (refurb in progress)
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Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve
The Alex Moulton does not fold and for a good reason. The folding bike is all about compromise and even Moulton knows this. As someone who rides a 16 and 20 inch wheel folder, there are several compromises that come with the smaller wheel. The Moulton is a nice bicycle but for the price of a "New Series", you could buy a top of the line Lightspeed! The Moulton will never ride as nice as a bike with 700 cc wheels which is why it needs both front and rear suspension.
I'm afraid you missed my point. You had claimed that, if you don't need a bike to fold, you should always
get a "full sized" (i.e., 26" or 700cc) bike. My "oh yeah?!" sensor goes off whenever anyone tosses off absolutes like "never" or "always". So I merely pointed out that, according to Moulton, that's just not true. I specifically mentioned Moultons precisely because they weren't
folders, and thus were counter-examples to your argument, at least according to the guy that made them.
Moultons use smaller wheels for their inherent advantages, while incorporating suspension to make up for their disadvantages. The idea is that this is not some sort of compromise because they were unable to incorporate larger wheels--this was an intentional design decision. As a portions of the page you didn't quote mention:
"The small wheels are an essential feature of the Moulton concept. They offer many advantages... It's not just as good as a conventional bicycle, it's better. Owners of Moulton bicycles report that after using the Moulton for a week, they never want to ride conventional bicycles again."
Now, is this really true? You got me. Which is why I defer to Moulton's web page instead of giving my own opinion. I think it's an intriguing idea that a small-wheeled bike could, when unburdened by the need to fold, be designed to ride better than a full-sized bike, but I've never ridden one of them. Have you? If so, how do they compare to similarly-sized folders?