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Old 01-17-12, 03:07 AM   #1
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Tern in the UK

Well, it's not a myth, here they are, will go down at lunchtime and have a look for myself.

http://www.evanscycles.com/search?query=tern&x=9&y=11
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Old 01-17-12, 07:21 AM   #2
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Nope, not expected on the shop floor until March, so as a brand Tern gets upgraded from mythical to semi-mythical, if only because it's on the Evens website, with prices.

Plenty of heavily discounted Dahons in their winter sale on the shop floor though.
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Nope, not expected on the shop floor until March, so as a brand Tern gets upgraded from mythical to semi-mythical, if only because it's on the Evens website, with prices.

Plenty of heavily discounted Dahons in their winter sale on the shop floor though.
Thanks for the info.

Just out of curiosity, when you say heavily discounted....how discounted are we talking about here? Do you remember any prices on any of those bikes?
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Thanks for the info.

Just out of curiosity, when you say heavily discounted....how discounted are we talking about here? Do you remember any prices on any of those bikes?
Sorry, no i don't remember offhand, but if you look at the Evans website in the link i'm sure you will find all the sale prices for Dahon.
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Sorry, no i don't remember offhand, but if you look at the Evans website in the link i'm sure you will find all the sale prices for Dahon.
Oh, yeah that works, thanks. When you said "shop floor" a just incorrectly assumed it wouldn't be on their website.

There is an Mu P8 for a C note less than I paid for mine. Of course, I bought mine at my LBS so no shipping.

At the mention of heavily discounted Dahons, I dreamed of a Jetstream at half price.
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At the mention of heavily discounted Dahons, I dreamed of a Jetstream at half price.
I bought a Jetstream P8 from them last year at 40% discount, 999 reduced to 599, worth every penny. They still have them on offer.
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I bought a Jetstream P8 from them last year at 40% discount, 999 reduced to 599, worth every penny. They still have them on offer.
I just saw that. Shipping to the USA would add 180 quid though. Still very tempting, but my wife would kill me.
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Rex, remember take the 20 percent off or so for the VAT tax and that just might cover a lot of the shipping
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Rex, remember take the 20 percent off or so for the VAT tax and that just might cover a lot of the shipping
Thanks for the tip RayB, but i believe that 599 price is Ex VAT so I am still looking at a bit over USD $1000.
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Thanks for the tip RayB, but i believe that 599 price is Ex VAT so I am still looking at a bit over USD $1000.

No, 599 includes 20% VAT.
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No, 599 includes 20% VAT.
Not to be a PITA, but am I reading this wrong? See red circle.

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If you walk in off the street you can buy it over the counter for 599, which is 500 excl VAT, so from the above it looks like their export price is 650 excl VAT, not such a good deal, unless the 650 includes shipping.

Then again I expect you would also have to pay some import duty on entry to the states.
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Old 01-18-12, 12:29 PM   #13
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My guess about VAT is that 649.99 is incl. UK VAT but excl. US VAT, which means you will have to pay double VAT. Atleast, that is how it works when ordered from USA to Sweden (the double VAT thingie).
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But Sweden is EU and the US is not. When I buy from UK I do not pay UK VAT. This is quite complicated so he should ask somebody that has done something similar or an e-mail to costums.
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But Sweden is EU and the US is not. When I buy from UK I do not pay UK VAT. This is quite complicated so he should ask somebody that has done something similar or an e-mail to costums.
Indeed. Makes the one Thor has a lot more attractive, plus we would be giving our business to a good guy. Of course I still have my wife to contend with.
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Indeed. Makes the one Thor has a lot more attractive, plus we would be giving our business to a good guy. Of course I still have my wife to contend with.
Is your wife getting any of these bikes or is it just you...?
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Is your wife getting any of these bikes or is it just you...?
She does't want an other bike, she is sensible that way. She does have some nice bikes already and we do get to ride together, there I am very fortunate. But I am the one with the addiction and I ride more than she does. So no, trying to bribe her with a bike so I can get one won't work this time.

I am not really in a position to buy an other bike yet. It is just that this, at least at first seemed like a really good deal, to good to pass up.

This all started innocently enough. After spending a week riding in the mountains, I got the idea that the bike I was riding (a Vitesse) was the perfect bike for that, but that suspension and disc brakes would really help with the descent on poor surfaces. That bike would be the Jetstream EX. But with it't price tag it really is just a dream. A Jetstream P8 would be the next best thing because of the suspension or a Formula Vitesse because of the disc brakes.

Hearing about my dream bike being "half priced" bike undoubtedly had its effects.
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Hearing about my dream bike being "half priced" bike undoubtedly had its effects.
Take your addiction for a walk round the block, go and have a look at the Airnimal Rhino !
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I have been commuting about 6 miles a day for the last 4 weeks on my tern. I have the Link D7i and it's been awesome! Only things I changed is adding the MKS "Grip King" superior quick release pedals. I commute in flip flops or some soft sole puma shoes and the pedals are great. Have had them for a day so far. The stock pedals worried me as I'm 215lbs and can torque the bike. Frame is really sturdy but the plastic pedals worried me. The internal hub has been great and I have had no issues other than the initial allignment was a little off but took 10 mins to find out how to fix it and align the marks. No slipping or clunking. Love this bike!

BTW I got mine from Thor. It has the black with grey logo colorway and I love it. Next mods are a green apple brooks saddle, Green grips, and eventually some big apples when the stock tires wear out.
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I have been commuting about 6 miles a day for the last 4 weeks on my tern. I have the Link D7i and it's been awesome! Only things I changed is adding the MKS "Grip King" superior quick release pedals. I commute in flip flops or some soft sole puma shoes and the pedals are great. Have had them for a day so far. The stock pedals worried me as I'm 215lbs and can torque the bike. Frame is really sturdy but the plastic pedals worried me. The internal hub has been great and I have had no issues other than the initial allignment was a little off but took 10 mins to find out how to fix it and align the marks. No slipping or clunking. Love this bike!

BTW I got mine from Thor. It has the black with grey logo colorway and I love it. Next mods are a green apple brooks saddle, Green grips, and eventually some big apples when the stock tires wear out.
Back on topic. Tern

First congrats on your new Tern. Wishing you many trouble free miles.

Where are you located? USA somewhere I presume if you bought from Thor?
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Take your addiction for a walk round the block, go and have a look at the Airnimal Rhino !
Thanks for the pointer, I will have butchers. They are made by Pacific right?
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Back on topic. Tern

First congrats on your new Tern. Wishing you many trouble free miles.

Where are you located? USA somewhere I presume if you bought from Thor?
Yeah I'm in FL. Got a little off topic but basically what I am saying is that they are worth the wait and are out on the streets in some areas. Not this mythical creature one might think
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Thanks for the pointer, I will have butchers. They are made by Pacific right?
Yes sir, check out the Airnimal facebook page, they have some awesome Rhino pictures from riders (there is one with a Rohloff, droll).

Fun Fact: This bike is made and designed in the same place as this 2010 World Champ bike (for those that complain about no tech on the folding bike industry).

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But Sweden is EU and the US is not. When I buy from UK I do not pay UK VAT. This is quite complicated so he should ask somebody that has done something similar or an e-mail to costums.
Well, That's kind of my point. Import from outside EU into EU (Sweden) forces me to pay double VAT. Reversing that idea would equal import from EU (this time UK) to outside UK may also force one to pay double VAT.
Besides, when buying within EU I think you only have to pay the "company country" VAT but not where you live. For example: if I order from UK I pay UK VAT but not Swedish VAT.

Worth noting is that I'm not sure of this but that is how I understand it. (Haven't actually imported anything in years. Last thing was a book and books have different rules than other stuff.)
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Not to be a PITA, but am I reading this wrong? See red circle.

Since you are from the states.....

http://speedriverbicycle.com/product...p8-82496-1.htm

$850 Canadian. how's that?
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