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    Some general questions for the overwhelmed newb

    Wow. I though the recumbent world was overflowing with custom choices until I started to look into a folder for more practical commuting use. One thing for sure - the more I ogle over the images of several of these bikes the more I want one.



    That said, I am starting my process of narrowing down to at least a handful of choices. I have done several searches and still have some questions I have not been able to reconcile. I welcome any comments/answers/insights.

    1. Downtube Nova loks good. No disc brakes though or option for them . Question is on the Nova: is it possible to convert that to a nine speed with a chain/wheel/rear dr/shifter swap? Also like the idea of having the front dr mount. If the Nova can be converted to 9 speed with stuff I have in the part bin, that would be cheaper than getting the "9" version. Plus I like orange. I would have to sell off most of my 406 wheels though or get MSW rims and a replace job. Ugh.

    2. Swift bike. Looking at the steel one from Eugene Oregon. Is it possible to get that with disc tabs and as a frame set? I did not like the looks of that disign at first but the more I read about it the more intrigued I am. Again I already have wheels and shifters galore in my parts stash and a seat as well.

    3. Dahon. Not sure what model, but they appear to be cost effective. Clearly no disc brakes though. I will be testing a few of these locally here in the coming days/weeks at Clever Cycles or Coventry in Portland...

    4. "SRS" folders via eBay. I am not sure what if any consensus exists on these. I saw on eBay an SRS Racer 20" with a tag line in the picture "create your joyful life" LOL. Clearly some bad English translation or something but the bikes look sweet and come 27 speed for around 1000 bills. This is really way more than I want to spend on anything new so it would have to be used.... But still info is sparse on these.

    5. Downtube 9 or 9FS. Nice looks but not as clean looking as the Nova. Not sure if I am sold on the full suspension. Easy to add BB7's. Is the price difference between the Nova and these models worth it? It's heavier as well. Hmmmm

    Budget for me is really in the $500 max range. Use of bike would be commuting locally for work or fun and occasional medium distance rides where taking my ICE QNT trike is not an option. For any real loooong rides I would take the trike. Plus I have just been bitten with this folding bike bug and now I must dip my toes into these waters.

    You may ask about my concern with disc brakes. Well, all of the 20" 406 wheels I own are NMSW 9 speed and have disc hubs, so for me to use them... It would be nice to have the option. Plus I really love disc brakes.

    Any thoughts?
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    I have nova. No need for disk brakes as stock v brakes very good. Not linear. Grabs right away

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    Hi PCRX:

    My journey is the opposite of yours. Been a folder fan for a long time and just recently converted to recumbents. I am very comfortable in the folder world and was perplexed going into the recumbent arena

    Of the brands you listed, I think the Swift is the best by far for sportier riding. The only negative that I see with the Swift is that it doesn't fold down as small as the others. Don't know how that dimension ranks in your priority list. If you just need something to go down to the grocery store, any of the above would work. I see a very good deal on the SF Bay Area Craigslist here; http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2819746882.html

    I've owned about 20 folding bikes in my career. If you want to talk in person, feel free to pm me for my info.

    Good luck!

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    with a 500 dlr budget you are somewhat limited .....
    here just a tad higher :
    http://www.thorusa.com/tern/linkd8.htm thats an alloy frame, if you like steel for some reason or the other maybe this :
    http://www.thorusa.com/dahon/current/speedp8.htm
    both of these are actually available .....

    this one has disc brakes , but besides not available at this time, its way higher than your budget.
    http://www.thorusa.com/dahon/current/formula.htm

    This one has disc.... it is in stock as we speak ..... its 24 inches .... a little more affordable than the Formula above but still out o0f your budget of 500 ...
    http://www.thorusa.com/tern/eclipsep9.htm

    Thor

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    RE number 2.. Builder: Human Powered Machines
    is part of the Center for Appropriate Transport,
    in Eugene Oregon, easy to contact and ask about options , It would be built JIT,
    Right there, though there may be a sample on the floor to test ride,
    conveniently right near Skinner's Butte Park, on the river.

    Jan at HPM might get an un-powder coated bare frame and fork to you for $500..

    Another Eugene OR, Bike Maker..
    I own a Disc brake 406 wheel Bike Friday, but they wont come in at $500.

    overhead in China is just lower, even after all the shipping across the Pacific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brakemeister View Post
    with a 500 dlr budget you are somewhat limited .....
    here just a tad higher :
    http://www.thorusa.com/tern/linkd8.htm thats an alloy frame, if you like steel for some reason or the other maybe this :
    http://www.thorusa.com/dahon/current/speedp8.htm
    both of these are actually available .....

    this one has disc brakes , but besides not available at this time, its way higher than your budget.
    http://www.thorusa.com/dahon/current/formula.htm

    This one has disc.... it is in stock as we speak ..... its 24 inches .... a little more affordable than the Formula above but still out o0f your budget of 500 ...
    http://www.thorusa.com/tern/eclipsep9.htm

    Thor
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    Quote Originally Posted by brakemeister View Post
    with a 500 dlr budget you are somewhat limited .....
    here just a tad higher :
    http://www.thorusa.com/tern/linkd8.htm thats an alloy frame, if you like steel for some reason or the other maybe this :
    http://www.thorusa.com/dahon/current/speedp8.htm
    both of these are actually available .....

    this one has disc brakes , but besides not available at this time, its way higher than your budget.
    http://www.thorusa.com/dahon/current/formula.htm

    This one has disc.... it is in stock as we speak ..... its 24 inches .... a little more affordable than the Formula above but still out o0f your budget of 500 ...
    http://www.thorusa.com/tern/eclipsep9.htm

    Thor
    I'm curious as to why Tern's P9 models are so overpriced. Is it because of the popularity that model has? Similar to how P8 models are probably Dahon's best selling bikes? So Tern thinks they can overprice them?

    For example, the Link P9 is $900, but the Link P24h is $950, and with the P24h you get a dualdrive hub which in total gives you 24 speeds vs 9 on the P9, fenders, and an adjustable stem for the handlebar. Sounds to me like the P9 should be $800, $850 tops. Looks like Dahon got a bit sensible and lowered their prices, the Mu P8 is now $800 http://blog.nycewheels.com/dahon-fol...ice-reduction/

    So, how is the Eclipse P9 possibly worth $1100? I look at the components on the bike and it baffles me.

    Edit: Just so no one gets confused, if you click on "Tern" in the navigation on Thor's site, and then click on the P24h, it'll show the bike for $950, but when you're looking at a different bike and click on the P24h, it'll show $1100. Regardless, here's another dealer confirming the $950 price - http://bikesatvienna.blogspot.com/20...ls-arrive.html
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    Sadly around 500 is a limit for me. Ultimately I would like to test ride all of these but that likely won't happen. I am ok with FYI ng blind into something in my price range knowing if it doesn't work out long term I can recoup most of the investment...

    Another one that popped up on the radar is the Melon Slice. Anyone have experience with that bike? It has a slick look...

    Actually I am surprised how similar some of these bikes look from different manufacturers.

    Ultimately if I had to sell off my killer NMSW wheels and get new I can live with that. I just know from personal history that I always get the desire to upgrade wheels... It's the upgadeitis weakness for me.

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    Technically against the rules I suppose, but Thor generally has such a good reputation for helping folding forum folks out, I'd give him a pass.

    For the record: I don't know Thor, and have never bought or received anything from him except advice on this forum.

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    FolderFreak: Unless you recently changed your handle and are really an old hand, as a newbie it is definitely out of order, impolite at least, to point the oldies around here to the rules.
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    Thats your 4rth post Newbie ? Kinda pretty brave to stick the head that far out of the window ....lol
    Did you see the yellow Yersey next to my name ?

    ANyho
    yeah I fixed the price on the 24h ... I actually have 2 different pages.... ( I hate computers )


    About being overpriced Tern ..... another newb comment .... ... its all in the details ...
    sure I have questions about some models .... as well... being Dahon or Tern both... I wish they could deliver the same or better quality for 30 % less money. but that is not possible.
    The best is to see and ride a bike ... the web in all its glory is not doing those bikes any favours. The P24 is somewhat here in the USA as a second thought, originally not planned to be here at all. In other countries that bike has a light, a generator hub, fulkl set of carriers... over here it has fenders and not much more... therefore the super deal price of 950.00 versus the 1300 or so it was supposed to be ....
    And yes I applaud Dahon that they really tightened their belts and lowered some prices 15 % ... good job Dahon

    Thor

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    Quote Originally Posted by brakemeister View Post
    Thats your 4rth post Newbie ? Kinda pretty brave to stick the head that far out of the window ....lol
    Did you see the yellow Yersey next to my name ?
    We're newbs bro, our post count discredits anything we say. Better buy a premium membership so I can have a yellow jersey next to my name or just give up.

    I better start accepting marketing terms too...it's all in the ride, it's all in the ride, it's all in the ride...

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    you guys .... calm down will ya ... this is a pretty special place with a ton of real good information and lots of help from everybody. Lets keep it that way. The OP was asking aboy disc brake and a budget of 500 dlr.... therefore the links are to illustrate things, not so much to actually sell stuff...

    but again ... calm down and enjoy all the wisdon this forum has to offer...

    thor

    ps. I am not your bro by the way ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcrx View Post
    Sadly around 500 is a limit for me.
    pcrx, one option you have is to look for a deal in the used folder market. Here is for example a DualDrive 24 Dahon for $550 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/2825669489.html
    Happier than a camel on wednesday.

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    Actually I do have a special dual drive ....its new, but has a few scratches( on top of the latch) ..... I built it up for myself last year from a Dahon Speed Pro TT ( Vbrake option) ..orange in color... It has a flat bar ..check out the Vienna bar here : http://www.thorusa.com/accessories/handlebar.htm.... it has Compe Wheels with Big fat Apples on it .... Its a super comfy upright kinda speedster with a lot of gears ...lol I need to check for the other details, and possibly make a pic or two for you .... I would think that 650 could buy that bike.... but let me check and make sure tomorrow ...
    thor
    I really have to make some room in my project room.....

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    Well I might be answering my own question on what to get today - I am going this afternoon to take a look at a "barely used" 2009 Downtube 9FS. The orange color. Could be a good buy as it will end up well less than half the cost of a new one...

    That would be nice and free up possible funds for upgrades.

    So we will see...

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