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 02-25-12, 04:25 PM #1 HBolte Junior Member Thread Starter   Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Clarkston, MI USA Bikes: Specialized - Allez and TriCross Expert. Cannondale F900SX MTB. Kona Unit 2-9 Single Speed MTB. Tern Verge X20 Posts: 8 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s) L (mm) for 20 inch X 1.10 for Cyclocomputer Hello, I'm awaiting delivery of my first folding bike. Does anyone know the L (mm) to enter into the cyclocomputer for a 20 inch X 1.10 tire? Thanx!
 02-26-12, 02:09 AM #2 fietsbob  coprolite     Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: NW,Oregon Coast Bikes: 8 Posts: 26,438 Mentioned: 44 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 2397 Post(s) L? you need Diameter or radius (1/2D). of the tire.
 02-26-12, 06:35 AM #3 brentirvine Senior Member   Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cochrane, ON CANADA Bikes: Raleigh Olympian, Trek 2100, Cannondale F1000SL, Dahon Speed TR Posts: 51 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s) I'm not sure what 'L' is, but as mentioned you can use the d or r in case you need to calculate the circumference which is calculated as C = 2 x pi x r or C = pi x d, where pi is a constant number of 3.14159... Or, if you need to measure out the circumference manually, put a chalk mark on your wheel, get on the bike and align the chalk mark (at the bottom of the rotation) with a line on the ground then roll your bike as you are on it to a point where the chalk mark is again at the bottom of the rotation. Measure the distance between the two marks on the road and that will give you the ground distance for a full wheel's rotation. Really, one way or another that is what your computer needs, so you can calculate the r or d from that manual measurement. I hope I haven't confused you?! B
 02-26-12, 08:34 AM #4 HBolte Junior Member Thread Starter   Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Clarkston, MI USA Bikes: Specialized - Allez and TriCross Expert. Cannondale F900SX MTB. Kona Unit 2-9 Single Speed MTB. Tern Verge X20 Posts: 8 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s) Thanks B, yes I need the circumference. I won't have the bike for a few days. I just wanted to set up the computer now and thought I'd check if anyone had the number instead of waiting to measure it myself. Thanks!
 02-26-12, 10:12 AM #5 rex615 canis lupus familiaris     Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Carolina Bikes: En plus one Posts: 2,259 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 2 Post(s) You will get the most accurate performance from your computer if you use the actual circumference of the tire at the inflation pressure you will use with your weight on the bike. But even unladen, the measurement is still better than a number of a chart. There are differences in tire circumferences for nominally equal tires. I use the method that brentirvine suggests with the difference that I use three rotations and then divide the number by three, this presumably compensates for measurement errors as it gives you the average of three rotations. For most computers the input number is the circumference in millimeters. Hope this helps.
 02-26-12, 10:42 AM #6 social suicide Senior Member     Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marquette Bikes: Posts: 686 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 2 Post(s) I used the rollout X3 method as described above. My computer had hundreds of preset numbers, none of them for 20 inch wheels.
 02-26-12, 10:45 AM #7 HBolte Junior Member Thread Starter   Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Clarkston, MI USA Bikes: Specialized - Allez and TriCross Expert. Cannondale F900SX MTB. Kona Unit 2-9 Single Speed MTB. Tern Verge X20 Posts: 8 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s) Thanx Rex, I planned on doing it that way also. I'll do it three times as you suggest! Hans
 02-26-12, 04:59 PM #8 jur Senior Member   Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne Bikes: Posts: 7,246 Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 209 Post(s) Usually a close calculation (1%) is to take twice the tyre width and add that to the ETRTO diameter: 406 + 2 * 28 = 462; L = 426*pi = 1451mm.
 02-26-12, 08:12 PM #9 HBolte Junior Member Thread Starter   Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Clarkston, MI USA Bikes: Specialized - Allez and TriCross Expert. Cannondale F900SX MTB. Kona Unit 2-9 Single Speed MTB. Tern Verge X20 Posts: 8 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s) Thanks jur. Nice photo's! I hope to do some riding late this year in New Zealand with my folder. We'll be in Australia too by Christmas I think.