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    Folding bike "research"

    Hi

    Although I used to own a folder bike I had not owned or ridden a bike in past 10 years. Since I just concluded my folding bike search I figured why not share with a hope some will find it useful.

    Bikes I considered:

    Origami cricket/crane
    Citizen Miami
    GreenZone value edition
    Dahon single speed
    Kent Giordano
    Others I forget

    Folding bikes have many similarities, among them:
    made in China
    Shimano index shifter (except Dahon which is single speed)
    V brakes
    weight around 25lbs (except Citizen which is 32lbs due to steel frame)
    20" aluminum wheels (I did not consider 16" due to potholes in my area )
    fenders (except kent giordano)

    Things I disliked:
    Origami cricket - seat post cannot go all the way in due to suspension - it has to be stored outside of the frame for compact fold
    Origami cricket/crane - handle bar stem cannot be height adjusted, thin (weak?) hinge
    Citizen Miami - steel frame - hence 32lb weight
    Dahon single speed - price and single speed, brand probably target for thiefs
    Kent Giordano - fenders not included, unknown quality/reliability, cannot accommodate >2" tires
    GreenZone - seems to be the same as no-brand bike from amazon and ebay - handlebar welded to stem, thin stem hinge, when folded it's 3" longer than others, 48t chain wheel (hm...GreenZone handle bar is not welded)
    Edit: GreenZone bike is similar to Citizen Miami, as it has steel frame. Ebay and amazon bikes -although they look the same - they are aluminum frame and much lighter.

    Things I liked:
    Origami crane/cricket- no quick release on front wheel (harder to steal w/o tools)
    Origami crane - frame looks really sturdy, looks like it could accommodate 2.35 big apple tires, good website with a lot of info/photos
    Origami circket - suspension and disc-brakes yet still lightweight
    Citizen Miami - low price caught my eye (still too much for a steel frame bike)
    Dahon - good reviews/opinions all around (cannot go wrong?)
    Greenzone/ebay/amazon - inexpensive if gotten from ebay/amazon, might accommodate >2" tires due to frame design

    Comments:
    origami crane's frame seems well designed, stands out from the folding crowd. Somehow cricket does not inherit the same frame design strenghts but offers more features. I think cricket could be a winner if it was mated with i-motion hub instead of derailleur (and perhaps sturdier stem hinge) - otherwise the chain is too low for the suspension features to shine (like going over a curb).

    Citizen Miami - it's OK except the weight

    Dahon - pricey and perhaps the bike that thiefs look for due to brand recognition

    Greenzone/ebay/amazon aluminum lightweight folding bicycle. I figured that handlebar stem is not angled forward like on most folding bikes and is not good for taller riders like me. Price+shipping and no easy returns were also a turn off.

    I picked Kent Giordano because of the price, sturdy construction (thick handle bar stem hinge, big frame hinge, rear triangle) and standard bicycle parts. There was one 5 star review on Amazon and few positive comments in bikeforums but not much info otherwise. Just in case, I got it from the place with free shipping and easy returns and I'm gonna keep it. (I do need to get fenders though).
    Last edited by bbmike; 03-26-12 at 11:44 AM.

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    We need pix, or at least a link!
    °Empty drums make a lot of noice... (Old Hungarian proverb).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbmike View Post
    Bikes I considered:
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    Others I forget
    it's called Downtube Nova. ;-)
    Happier than a camel on wednesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badmother View Post
    We need pix, or at least a link!
    Kent Giordano folding bicycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamtsa View Post
    it's called Downtube Nova. ;-)
    You are correct . For my needs I dismissed it because of 46t chainring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbmike View Post
    It's a Dahon. Nice bike.
    Happier than a camel on wednesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynocoaster View Post
    It's very close to C7. The only thing different appears to be steering tube of different shape that lacks front basket mounts.

    EDIT: another is that double truss of rear triangle is made out of three pieces (weaker) where C7 seems to be made out of two.

    EDIT2: I have got to snap out of research mode...I already have a bike
    Last edited by bbmike; 03-26-12 at 09:47 PM. Reason: additional info

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbmike View Post
    It's very close to C7. The only thing different appears to be steering tube of different shape that lacks front basket mounts.
    And it has the trapezoide stand under the BB, like the Nova (also a Dahon frame). Useful when folding. Enjoy.
    Happier than a camel on wednesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamtsa View Post
    It's a Dahon. ...
    I think it might be more correct to say, "It looks like a Dahon." Take a look at some pictures of the folded Kent Giodarno. The main hinge and the handlepost hinge are not like any Dahon that I have seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamtsa View Post
    It's a Dahon. Nice bike.
    Seat post is smaller diameter than used by Dahon.

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