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    Dahon Boardwalk or Origami Cricket?

    May end up getting a folder for my commute, and was wondering what y'all thought about these similarly priced bikes.

    Also, would someone 200 lbs be okay to ride it? (ie, me.) I'm working on losing weight but for now...

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    Te Boardwalk is a single speed and the Cricket has gears. The best bang for the buck right now is the last TernD8 that Thor has. http://www.thorusa.com/accessories/oneoff.htm
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    Since you hinted that you're somewhat out of shape I think you'd find gears useful therefore dahon boardwalk is not the bike for you. If you're ok with origami brand why not get the crane and upgrade the rear tire to Big Apple 20x2.10 (after confirming that it'll fit). You'll end up with light bike that shifts with a little softer ride for about the same price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetNightmare View Post
    May end up getting a folder for my commute ...
    If you want to test ride several different Dahons and Terns before you make a decision, come by our shop in Norman, Oklahoma.

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    lolz, I would, but Norman's a little far away for me. I cant even get the boyfriend to drive to the next town over, let alone out of state.

    As far as the crane, I was avoiding it because of the lack of suspension; I figured it would be a less comfortable ride than the Cricket. However, if money becomes an issue, I would be okay with the crane. Why in particular a big apple back tire? Just out of curiosity, I'm a little new to cycling, so I'm still learning.

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    For comfort.
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    No, I mean how would just a change of tire make it more comfortable. I'm just curious. Would the crane's lack of suspension make it a less comfortable ride, or would the change of tires negate that?

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    Big Apple tire is wider and taller, with more air, designed to run under low pressure to offer more cushy ride. Tires and suspension, for the most part, try cancel different kinds of terrain "irregularities":

    Since tires respond quicker but flex little (compared to suspension) they offer good suppression of small bumps, stones, cracks in a road. You could upgrade both tires however since most of the weight is focused on the rear, "baloon" tire in the rear will offer most benefit.

    Suspension on the other hand does not respond as quickly but offers a lot more travel to soften big bumps like going over a curb, tree branch, pothole etc. At the same time suspension (of Cricket's type) will rob you of some of the power you apply to the crank and add to bike's weight.

    If you are going to ride mostly on paved roads or sidewalks, getting suspension seat post or softer seat and "baloon" tire(s) will most likely be more beneficial than bike with suspension alone.
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    Alright, thanks for the info. Makes sense.

    Also, what's the general consensus on Citizen bikes? I've seen people that have been happy with them, and those that have not. I'm considering either the Miami or the Gotham2, with accessories, as they are similarly priced, have a wider selection, sell bike bags(great for keeping curious eyes away from my precious bike!) at discount with the bike, and more people seem to have tried them and like them, generally. Some say they're a little heavy, but I lift forty pound bags of dog food at work on a regular basis, so a thirty pound bike is nothing. I really like the look of the Gotham2...

    Also, I've noticed everyone here cant stop singing the praises of the Downtube Nova, and I've noticed it's on sale. I've heard it's super customizable too; y'all's thoughts? Could I fit a rack on the back? Fenders? Is it a comfortable ride or would I need to replace the saddle?
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    To add to bbmike post, Big Apple tires are also more flat resistant by nature of their construction materials. Gettiing fewer flats is always a good thing.

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    Indeed it is, lol. Especially since I'm not 100% certain how to change a flat correctly. (Know the theory, never done it.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetNightmare View Post
    Indeed it is, lol. Especially since I'm not 100% certain how to change a flat correctly. (Know the theory, never done it.)
    You may want to practice "changing flats" at home once or twice so that when it happens on the road you will be more confident since you know how. It will also be a good test for your tools and pump. One useful trick is to carry spare inner tube to change out. Once back home you can patch the punctured tube at your leisure.

    One advantage of a folder is that in case of an unfixable breakdown, you can resort to public transportation (bus, train or taxi etc). Even a friend with a Smart car will do.

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    Or just walk; most of my usual destinations arent too far from home; my work's not even two miles away.

    If my paycheck is substantial enough, I may go ahead and splurge for the Nova while it's on sale. (Plus I LOOOOOOVE how it looks in white.) If not, I'll wait and save and if it's still on sale, I'll go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetNightmare View Post

    Also, I've noticed everyone here cant stop singing the praises of the Downtube Nova, and I've noticed it's on sale. I've heard it's super customizable too; y'all's thoughts? Could I fit a rack on the back? Fenders? Is it a comfortable ride or would I need to replace the saddle?
    It is fine as is and will take racks and fenders designed for Dahon bikes, because it is essentially a Dahon bike.
    The saddle? That's personal choice. I did replace mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DVC45 View Post
    It [Downtube Nova] will take racks and fenders designed for Dahon bikes, because it is essentially a Dahon bike. ...
    The website description of the Downtube Nova states, "The frame hinge is licensed from Dahon, and the stem uses a Brompton screw style." I don't think those features make it a Dahon or a Brompton. REI's Novara Buzz FlyBy was essentially a Dahon bike (a Mu XL Sport). I am not aware of a U.S. model Dahon that is/was substantially the same as the Downtube Nova. Is there a Dahon model in a different market (i.e. China) that is the same as the Downtube Nova?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HGR3inOK View Post
    The website description of the Downtube Nova states, "The frame hinge is licensed from Dahon, and the stem uses a Brompton screw style." I don't think those features make it a Dahon or a Brompton. REI's Novara Buzz FlyBy was essentially a Dahon bike (a Mu XL Sport). I am not aware of a U.S. model Dahon that is/was substantially the same as the Downtube Nova. Is there a Dahon model in a different market (i.e. China) that is the same as the Downtube Nova?

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    ' not sure, but it carries the Dahon Hologram sticker.

    Quote Originally Posted by nparker View Post
    Got a quick reply from Dr. Yan:

    1) What is the rear spacing of the frame? (126mm / 130mm /135mm)
    we have had 130's and 135's the latest ones should be 135's

    2) What is the spacing of the front fork? (74mm / 80mm / 100mm)
    100

    3) What is the width and threading of the bottom bracket?
    68x114 (as I recall)

    4) What is the head set size? 1” or 1 1/8”
    1 1/8"

    5) What is the size of the seat post?
    550mm (L) 30.4mm (D)

    6) Is there touchup paint available for the bikes?
    No

    7) Are there any geometry specs that can be found? (effective top tube length, etc..)
    We do not have them, however it is a Dahon licensed frame, hence you can get the info from them
    The above quote is from this thread
    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post13684703
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    Quote Originally Posted by DVC45 View Post
    ' not sure, but it carries the Dahon Hologram sticker. ...
    That's interesting. I have not been able to locate a current or previous model Dahon with a frame that matches the Downtube Nova fork and seatpost specifications. I'm pretty sure that "Dahon Licensed Technology" does not necessarily mean the part was manufactured by Dahon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetNightmare View Post
    May end up getting a folder for my commute, and was wondering what y'all thought about these similarly priced bikes.

    Also, would someone 200 lbs be okay to ride it? (ie, me.) I'm working on losing weight but for now...
    I weigh 220 and have been riding a boardwalk for almost 4 years. I put big apple tires on as it helps stability for off pavement riding. I think the boardwalk is a great bike. The only problems I had was the pedals. I wound up putting on non folding standard size pedals. This turned out to be a nice improvement over the small pedals.
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