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    Brompton ... Yes or No ?

    Hello Friends

    I am a university student, and I'm sure many of you recall that money is in short supply when a student.

    I live about 45 minutes (walk) away from University, and would like a Bike to get me there sooner. So I was thinking the Brompton M3L.

    But where I live (West Yorkshire), we have a lot of hills, and not many cycle paths, so the bike would be ridden on pavements, and sometimes the pavement edge is an inch or two higher that the road surface, so you have a bump.

    I weigh 83 Kg, and I am 175 cm tall (or short ). The reason I want a Folding Bike is because my House is basically a Flat, and there is no room for any other sort of bike, but a Folding one.

    My question is, would the Brompton be OK (for at least 6 years) with the road bumps ..etc for an overweight guy like me ? Or should I not bother with a Brompton ?

    Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank You

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    You go to University and can afford a Brompton. Awesome. I understand 20 inch wheels handle bumps better than 16, but considering the price of a Brompton, chicks will know your wealthy so you would probably score better with a Brompton.

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    A Brompton should withstand the rigors of the years as well or better than other folders. And you should aim to ride on the road not the pavement; pavement riding is dangerous. Look up vehicular cycling.

    Hills will suck at first. But then you will discover hitherto un-suspected levels of fitness potential you never dreamed you had. And keeping on will realize the fitness, and hills will become easier. Still later you will have a trim hard body with very little excess fat and you will seek out those hills.

    Fantasy? No. Happened to loads of people including myself.

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    If you are going to class and moving from class to class between sessions, lugging around a 20 inch bike will get tiring really fast unless you find a way to roll it around easily. This is depending on the bike you get, even a B you'll have to upgrade the wheels while you drag it between classes but at least it'll be easier to let it stand on it's own here and there. A 20 inch would work for people going to work where they get to their place and just park it under their desk the rest of the day. But for some that have to constantly move around with it....... you won't like it and would probably stop riding in a week.

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    Thanks for the replies guys.

    @bt93: It is true that the Brompton is expensive, but think long term, and it is actually cheap. A bike that will still be a joy to ride in 6 to 10 years for 600 to 700 is not bad at all. In fact it is very good value for money.

    @jur: I hope you are right ! I'm not very fit at the moment. Do you know if Vehicular Cycling is allowed in the UK ? I'm a bit worried, cause I sometime see car drivers swearing at cyclists on the road :/

    @Azreal911: Most days, I'm at University for only a couple of hours, it is only one day a week where we have 6 hours of studying, and even then, the whole IT Branch of Studies is one building, so I'm good in that regard. But your point is a good one to mention. Thanks.

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    I would get one that is geared for the hills that you have there. Do you have a program there where you get help with the purchase of a Brompton?
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    Program to help with the purchase ? I'm not sure what you mean ? Do you mean like a Monthly Payment plan .. etc ? I wish !

    As for the hills, here is a picture of the town, it is them sort of hills, long and steep.


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    If it could help, during travel I've ridden our Brompton over forest trails, rocks, protruding roots, gravel, sand, sunk with it into mud reaching above axles etc., all while having the T-bag filled with equipment. The bike appears to take these frivolities with a near indifference.

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    I'm very pleased to hear that 2_i thanks for sharing that.

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    You can hide it in your room too. . so less likely to get nicked.

    lock it up good when you do have to leave it outside ..

    I hear there is stolen Brompton traffic in the South.

    M6L with the 44t chainring should be adequate for rolling hills

    That, the dales, doesn't look like the Highlands , or any of the Munroes,
    so 'steep' is relative.
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    Thanks Fietsbob, sorry, you're right. 'Steep' is indeed relative.

    Of course I plan to keep it inside the house.

    Question: Does the Brompton come with any sort of Guarantee / Warranty ? Also is the 44t standard with the M6L ? Or would I have to choose that option separately ?

    Thanks

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    Thanks DynoCoaster.

    Anyone know of any online stores where I can get a good deal on a Brompton M6L ?

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    SKS or Fudgescycles
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    I'm 105 kgs and I don't have a problem with any of my folding bikes, although I was sure to order the "firm" suspension for my Brompton. I'd be more concerned about the hills. Bromptons are known for having gearing that is too high for some hills, which is probably why you can specify three types of gearing if you are getting one custom-built: 1) standard, 2) for steep hills, and 3) for really steep hills. Some people who are on their second or third Brompton order the steep hill gearing, even if they don't live around steep hills. I've got standard gearing and live in an area with some moderate hills, but the hills don't bother me much.

    All in all, Brompton makes one heck of a bike. If you can find a used one in good condition it will serve you well for your needs as a student, and for post-graduate life. Keep in mind that a good bike needs proper maintenance for it to continue to be a good bike, so look for bikes that were recently tuned-up before they were being offered for sale. Some bike stores tune up all their used bikes before selling them, if you're buying directly from a person there's a good chance the bike was not serviced recently.

    If you see other students on folding bikes, it wouldn't hurt to get their opinion on things like bike type, gearing, or wheel size. They have already gone through what you are planning to do.
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    Thanks Guys.

    @DynoCoaster: Can you kindly provide a link to the online shop for SKS please ? I'm typing it in Google, and I get a lot of stuff, but no Bromptons.

    @MadCityCyclist: Thanks for the advice, none of the guys on my course commute on bikes. hehe Maybe I'll start a trend.

    Another Important question: Do you guys get back pain from riding the bikes ? I use to go to the Gym, and the stationary bikes use to hurt my back a lot !! would riding a Brompton have the same issue ? Since going to the gym, I decided to buy a stationary recumbent bike, and that is such a joy to exercise on, no back pain whatsoever because of the back support.

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    50t is standard , 44 and 54 are options. adds a bit for the substitution in the build list..

    This is the SJS address http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/ they carry all the Brompton bits and pieces.

    you are young , our back pains are from being exploited to earn money to live.

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    Thank You Fietsbob. I go to their Brompton Product Page, and all I'm getting is a Brochure ! Is that right ?

    Our back pains are from being exploited to earn money to live.
    I hear you brother !

    I am an IT Student, with own business on the side, I spend 12 hours a day in front of a PC. Sadly I too get Back pain.

    Perhaps someone young or someone not in a sedentary job can tell me if they get back pain from riding a bicycle. I remember the gym days, the pain was unbearable.

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    Also what I plan on going for is the following Model and Configuration. What do you guys think of it ? Would you change anything knowing the terrain I plan on riding the bike on .. etc

    M6L with the 44t Chain-ring
    SON DYNAMO
    Firm Suspension (I'm over 80Kg)
    Folding Basket (for shopping)
    Cover and Saddle Bag

    Thank You.

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    Sorry I meant SjS.
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    @DynoCoaster: no worries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciwan View Post
    Also what I plan on going for is the following Model and Configuration. What do you guys think of it ? Would you change anything knowing the terrain I plan on riding the bike on .. etc

    M6L with the 44t Chain-ring
    SON DYNAMO
    Firm Suspension (I'm over 80Kg)
    Folding Basket (for shopping)
    Cover and Saddle Bag

    Thank You.
    I am by no means a Brompton expert (my Brompton is 1.5 weeks old), but I would say that if you're going to be going to school, perhaps a bag attached to the front luggage block would be better. I've read that it makes the bike more stable with a load up front, so you could put your books in there for the ride to/from school instead of on your back. Instead of buying a Brompton bag, I've also read people buy just the bag frame and attach their own bags to the front of the Brompton.
    2012 Brompton H6L raw lacquer, hub dynamo lights, eazy wheels, C + Mini O bag, Ergon GP-1 biokork S grip shift, Lightweights spoke reflectors, Saddle Adapter pin.

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    Ahh good point PurpleOrchid. I think I'll go with your suggestion.

    Noticed your signature, Do you have images to share ? I thought Easy Wheels were only for the -R Models (with back wheel rack).

    Would love to see images if you have any

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    Go to Page 2 of this subforum and about halfway down is the thread I started called: "About to go look at my first folder (Brompton)" It has my whole "story" and pics at the end.
    2012 Brompton H6L raw lacquer, hub dynamo lights, eazy wheels, C + Mini O bag, Ergon GP-1 biokork S grip shift, Lightweights spoke reflectors, Saddle Adapter pin.

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    Damn. That is one sexy looking bike. Congrats PurpleOrchid.

    I'm so excited, now the hard bit, saving money for one.

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