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    Brompton Handlebars

    Hello Friends

    Got my Brooks B-67 Saddle today, all fitted and ready for tomorrow. Now I want to move onto the next thing that hurts, and that is the handlebars. I was thinking of these, but not sure if they fit on the M Type Handlebar.

    Does anyone know ?

    Thank You.

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    Lots of Brompton folks use Ergon grips. I myself have a pair of Ergon GP1 biokork (grip shift version) in size Small. There are several threads discussing these. Ozonation even started a step by step thread on how to install Ergons.

    Those Brooks grips should fit since the inner diameter is 22.2mm and so are the Brompton handlebars. And if scroll down in the link you provided, several reviews/comments from Brompton users too.
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    recall they use leather rings, the stack is skewered together with essentially spokes .

    So if its too wide , take out some leather rings,
    though you may need to go to the bike shop to thread the spokes a bit shorter

    The Hozan spoke threading tool is likely to be in the shop's tool inventory.

    pretty much what was said here, :

    Q > Hello, could you tell me if the grips can be fitted to a Brompton with the traditional U-Bars? Thanks
    A > Yes, I have a Brompton with M handlebar myself and I fitted the grips. You just need to shorten them, following the instructions which come in the box.
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    I saw these a few years ago, they do look nice... but 290 g

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    A Deli sandwich is probably about 300 grams or more,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    A Deli sandwich is probably about 300 grams or more,,
    Haha very true.

    Thanks Fietsbob, I think I'll go for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciwan View Post
    Hello Friends

    Got my Brooks B-67 Saddle today, all fitted and ready for tomorrow. Now I want to move onto the next thing that hurts, and that is the handlebars. I was thinking of these, but not sure if they fit on the M Type Handlebar.

    Does anyone know ?

    Thank You.

    Ciwan
    You sadi hurts.

    If it is hurting your hands I would listen to those who speak about the Ergon type grips, i would expect the Brooks ones to be quite hard..

    If it is hurting your eyes mainly then for shure the Brooks ones looks great.

    I put some cheapo foam ones until I have made up my mind and finished the upgrades and changes. I think in the long run I`ll be looking at Ergons.
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    I don't like the look of the design. The problem with small-wheeled bikes is the amount of vibration coming through the handlebars; the best way to counter that is with an ergonomic grip that has an amount of flex in the 'wing' section, as Ergon grips do. It's a simple suspension mechanism, and combined with padded gloves/mitts makes a significant difference.

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    I just got Ergon GP1 twist grips and will install them when I get back to Houston. I have the Brooks grips on my Raleigh 20 and like them but the Ergon design is more comfortable on a long ride.

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    Airwulf - Not sure if you read through the Ozonation's Ergon installation thread, but I also got the GP-1 grip shift grips and found that the plugs were too big in diameter for my H/M handlebars. Ozonation was successful in hammering his in, but I wasn't. I had to Dremel off the fins of the plug and am waiting for sugru to install my modified plugs.

    The grips however are awesome! I love them!
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    Bike shops have lots of plugs.. previous bike, I used Velox rubber ones ,
    the included hardware expands the plug into the bar.
    [Mk2 bikes used a bigger handlebar tube than 7/8"
    so it had rubber grips Serfas gel, also grip shift short
    original ones were vinyl]

    Next time I'm going to look for different hardware, Stainless ..
    as the rust and the makes them a 1 way installation, with difficult removal.

    cork from a bottle of wine works too..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purpleorchid View Post
    Airwulf - Not sure if you read through the Ozonation's Ergon installation thread, but I also got the GP-1 grip shift grips and found that the plugs were too big in diameter for my H/M handlebars. Ozonation was successful in hammering his in, but I wasn't. I had to Dremel off the fins of the plug and am waiting for sugru to install my modified plugs. The grips however are awesome! I love them!
    I managed to hammer mine in because I had about 10 mm of "extra" grip on the ends that didn't contact the bar itself to give my hand a bit more grip surface after cutting the GP1 down. I didn't have the grip shift variant, and nobody stocked them locally. Actually, I didn't know the biokork came in a grip shift version! Ah well... learn something new everyday!
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    I have the grip-shift version and I didn't have any problem hammering my plug in; I used a rubber mallet.

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    I wonder what the problem with my H/M handlebars or my plugs are. The plug fins were clearly larger in diameter than the ID of my handlebars. No amount of mallet hammering (which I tried) would have bent the fins enough to get them in.

    All is well with me though. I Dremeled the fins off, received my new batch of sugru, put some onto where the fins once were, did a wet fit to mold the sugru, added a small rim of sugru to act as a new holding fin, let it cure overnight, and installed them this morning. You'd never know I had to modify my plugs by looking at them installed...the "mess" is on the inside.
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    Guess you over 'dremmeled' .. a little bigger than ID, ideal, should have gone in, like a typical star nut does
    into your metal steerer ..

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    Ergon FAQ (#11) and bar plug installation video:

    http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/en/serv...-what-can-i-do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiten View Post
    Ergon FAQ (#11) and bar plug installation video:

    http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/en/serv...-what-can-i-do
    Very helpful! Thanks. I guess most of us "sort of" did what was suggested anyways.

    Note to Ergon: it would have been helpful to include a reference to this in the instructions! (e.g., "If your bar plugs to not fit, trim the fins to fit snugly. Refer to our website support pages for more information.")
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    Another note to Ergon: make the video visible via an iPad...there is no "video below". Now I have to wait until I turn on my laptop tomorrow to watch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purpleorchid View Post
    Another note to Ergon: make the video visible via an iPad...there is no "video below".
    And print a QR code on the grip... ;-)
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    The Ergon video at Vimeo has the option to switch to an HTML 5 version:

    http://vimeo.com/16407101

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    Thanks for the Vimeo link. That's what I did with the Dremel. If I knew it would cut that easily, I would have used the utility knife. But since the fins got soft and deformed from the hammering, I didn't think it was easy to cut.

    Oh well. Next time. My plugs are good now.
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    Thanks Guys.

    I am indeed looking more for comfort. How about these ones ? I would love to have the ability to change hand position for my long(ish) rides. I cycle to from work (10 miles both way, everyday). Would they fit on my Brompton M6L ?

    Thanks

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    Not Plug and play, only ship 'biocork' with that end,
    in longer standard grip, so, ..
    they have to be cut town.
    (Note another thread by someone showing it done)

    http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/en/product/gp3-biokork

    though if you go with the lower cost, black and grey grip,
    they are offered manufactured with shorter grip.
    http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/en/product/gp3

    You want the double grip shift version..
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    Hi Fietsbob

    Just to clarify, you're saying the BioCork ones will not fit unless altered (bits cut off .. etc).

    Is the BioCork much more comfortable than the Plastic Black/Grey one ?

    Thanks

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    Look at this page: http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/page/find...biocork&page=1

    You get them in different sizes. The second from the left is called "gripshift". This is said to be the right size for the Brompton M bars. The "Rolhof/Nexus" pair has got one long and one short since if you use such gearhubs you need one long and one short (since there is a twistgrip shifter on only one side of the bar.

    If you can buy the gripshift ones they would fit. If you can not find them you could buy the long ones and cut them down.
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