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    Chief Wheelfoot motion5447's Avatar
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    Dirt trails on small folders- does anyone do this?

    Does anyone find taking their small folding bikes on fast smooth single track to be fun??

    for some reason i get a kick out of the center of gravity being so low, and wheeling down a hill.

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    na... normally it is rather smaller than normal bikes and its speed is much slower...
    yO`z sUp... http://www.bryanchua.tk/

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    Tried some single track recently in the San Gabriel mountains on a Dahon Vitesse with 20 x 1-3/8 Primo Comet kevlar 100 psi tires. Incredible sense of controlled exhilirating, acceleration. In comparison made my Jamis Exile with Continental Pro Vertical 26x 2.3 (superb) MTB tires feel like an SUV ;-) The quick resposiveness and very quick cornering of a 20-inch folder (with the right tires) on hardpacked single track can be an adventure!

    But 20-inch folders can be skittish- you may need some DH armor ;-) There's a whole new skills set needed for single-track on a folder (which I don't have yet). Suggest you read "Single Track Mind", Paul Skilbeck, Missy Giove, Henrik Djernis, Velo Press, Boulder, CO, 1996, ISBN 1-88473-710-2. They were writing about MTB racing and not about rocketing down on folders (as I once tried through flocks of sheep in the steep hills of Dhún na Ngall, Ireland's West Coast ;-) So I don't know whether Missy's (DH Champion) secrets of bike handling (such as keep relaxed and don't sit too much) get lost in translation when single-track riding on a folder.

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    Why not? At least one manufacturer likes small wheels;
    http://burro-zvobikes.com/

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    Wide bars, bmx tyres.... Way too much fun..! But yeah, it's not like riding a MTB, mor like a fast BMX...

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    Biggest problem I had was the pedals are pretty low. You have to make an effort to keep the horiztontal at all times. Its been a lot of fun in the snow as long as it's not too deep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samb76
    Why not? At least one manufacturer likes small wheels;
    http://burro-zvobikes.com/
    Wow! Fuel cell version for 2006............

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    I also do BMX or offroad style stuff a little on occasion on my 20 too. It really is exhilerating, the low centre of grav., handling and cornering and bombproof tires make it really fun. That manufacturer aforementioned manufacturing makes some none power cell variants as well i think, check out the 'Big wheels are a lie' thread for pictures of that.
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    Let's not forget the Airnimal Rhino. That looks to be the don of small wheel rural riding with it's full suspension etc...

    I did a few miles on dirt on my Stelvio's last year along the south bank of the thames to richmond last year on the sponsored bikeathon. I was a bit trepadatious about a flat at first but even on 110 psi roadie tyres I had a bit of fun. No downhills though.

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    Gotta be careful the small wheels don't dig into a rut and put you over the bars but other than that concern, go for it.

    For steep downhilling I'd prefer 29" wheels but for flatter terrain 20" is fine.

    When you think about it, BMXers are using 20-inch wheels on vertical half-pipes...it's not that they can't do crazy stuff.

    http://www.khsjapan.com/products/f20-west/F20-west.htm
    CrMo frame, 38-inch wheelbase... handles fine offroad.
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    There' s some insanely pimped Rhinos on a japanese bike site... I wanted one, but they don't fold properly, and i can't afford it... I'm testing the strength of my Specialized Globe though.. :-D

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    Just out of interest, for this kind of riding, what tyres would people recommend?

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