Hi folding friends,
I want to take this opportunity to issue a warning for a dealer that does not conduct serious online business.
The store is located on these URL: s:
I was willing to purchase the 8 speed conversion kit from them but they never delivered.
Before I even placed the order I was in long conversation over email about how the conversion is done and the availability of the kit.
Everything seemed OK and I placed my order and got a tracking id for the order on the site. And my VISA card was charged within seconds of me placing the order.
But it was now the problem started. Kinetics was never able to produce a serious tracking id for the courier. After insisting in several mails I received a weird number which did not work to search for. I got in touch with Kinetics again and he claimed that the parcel had been returned to him, claiming that "they could not find my address". But this does not make sense; I live in the capitol Stockholm in Sweden, on a very central address. And any serious courier would not have ANY problem finding my address. And with today’s hi-tech tools there should not be any problem searching for an address.
Kinetics claimed later that he once more sent the parcel, now with another courier. And once more Kinetics was not able to produce a tracking code, which is very weird.
I got in touch again with Kinetics and I said I wanted to whole purchase to be canceled, and my money returned to my VISA card.
But I did not get any help for this. Instead Kinetics once more claimed that the address could not be found and the parcel was returned.
All this took several months. Finally I got fed up with the delays and the false claims of sending the parcel, and I got in touch with my bank that started an investigation to return my money. I provided them with the whole email conversion with Kinetics.
My Bank returned my money to my VISA card.
So in conclusion, do not purchase anything from Kinetics. They are not serious. He is running a scam online.
He claims he have a store where you can visit to, maybe this is a better choice, than you can make sure you get your stuff directly.