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    Replacing Downtube 8H Daily Commute - Tern?

    My Downtube 8H is done, unless I can find a replacement frame. I have a daily commute (4 miles each way) including Amtrak, with a steep hill.

    I'm a little unsure on replacement. Suggestions?

    characteristics I'm looking for:

    - stiff ride for downhill 35-40 MPH with good brakes a must!
    - 32 gear inches for uphill (to 17% grade) [I lowered the 8H gearing from 46T to 43T]
    - I have an internal hub - prefer but not required.
    - 3x daily fold for train commute. 20" wheel is fine
    - year round commuting in work clothes - fenders standard or can add.
    - do not need or want any suspension.
    - rider: 180 lbs 6' even

    I ride 150-175 days of the year so dependability and durability is a concern.

    I'm not interested in Brompton. The Swift has a little too big a fold.
    Are there any Dahons worth considering - I had been worried about parts and quality.
    I was thinking Tern D7i although the top gearing is a little low.
    Last edited by JugglerDave; 07-14-12 at 06:29 AM.

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    Link D7i could use your 8 speed igh if needed.
    Dahon Vitesse D7HG
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    Have you already eliminated the Downtube Nova as an option? You could always get a Surly Singleator to accomodate your IGH on a frame with vertical dropouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephLMonti View Post
    Have you already eliminated the Downtube Nova as an option? You could always get a Surly Singleator to accomodate your IGH on a frame with vertical dropouts.
    Although I'm mechanically inclined I'm not too interested in spending the time for a 'frankenbike' this time around. I'd rather pay a little more for a decent bike that hopefully will last me 4-5 years.

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    BikeFriday Season tikit
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    "When man first set woman on two wheels with a pair of pedals, did he know, I wonder, that he had rent the veil of the harem in twain? A woman on a bicycle has all the world before her where to choose; she can go where she will, no man hindering." The Typewriter Girl, 1899.

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    At 35-40 MPH, you would appreciate the stability of 24" wheels. My vote goes to Tern Eclipse S11i. I would try to ride some Terns before final selection and purchase.

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    Thanks for posting this Juggler Dave! GEEZ!

    I have been fanatically combing these threads for some degree of discernment but I am still clueless. Is there an Excel chart available?

    You are posting my needs EXACTLY: fast, sturdy and durable.
    Lots of bridges and I want something zippy. I prefer steel.
    I am not mechanically inclined in the least and haven't the time nor patience
    to swap components. I am impressed by the other posters and reading their
    creativity--sadly--it just isn't my talent. The most I am able to accomplish is turning off the monkey lights I had the LBS install.
    Pathetic but it is what it is. I am just not tactile.

    I like the Tern's but don't know much about their components. This is always my confusion: overpaying for something with meh components. I like the Citizen, I like the Origami --think they are aluminum but is the difference worth it if I pay $249 for the Origami Crane the owner is selling or do I need to spend $1600 for the Mu360?
    I like bikes that can take a beating. I stopped riding my Trek Alpha 2.1 because I just felt it wasn't fair to expect the bike to perform like a commuter when it is a road bike.
    Frankly, I am at a loss. I test rode the Dahon Speedy 7i. I liked it. LBS wanted $649 but online it is much cheaper.
    On Craigslist someone is selling a Dahon for $100. Then someone else a newer model Dahon for $500.

    I just don't know.
    Read the entire thread...might help. Different spokes for different folks...stop being so blasted superficially sanctimonious. You dont know everything and are not perfect.

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    Also folding. I can't get something heavily complicated.
    I watched the Brompton video--way too much for me.
    Then there is another bike --the wheel has to be removed. Again, too much.
    Clamp in the middle, tuck in the peds, release seatpost--I can handle. Tightening this and unscrewing that and
    not being able to change a tire because something is attached to something--its too much.

    I looked at the Giant in another LBS. It was nice. They didn't offer a test ride so I guess they didn't want to sell. It was cheap though $449.
    The sales person said it was different from other folders because it had a triangle support? Umm, came home researched--don't all folders have the triangle?

    I don't want to buy to cheap and then zooming around and the bike falls apart on me--on the other hand I don't want to overpay.

    So--have you decided yet?
    Read the entire thread...might help. Different spokes for different folks...stop being so blasted superficially sanctimonious. You dont know everything and are not perfect.

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    give me a call, credit card handy ..
    I ll make you decide ...:-)
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    What's the number? What brands do you sell?
    Or are you kidding?
    Read the entire thread...might help. Different spokes for different folks...stop being so blasted superficially sanctimonious. You dont know everything and are not perfect.

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    Thor is a retail resource. UPS knows where he is..

    35-40 MPH with good brakes a must!
    I have a bIke friday with disc brakes , just to keep my speed well below that.

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    @BadBoy10: He's not kidding. Legit seller; go visit www.thorusa.com

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    HAHA! Okay, thank you! I'm on it!
    LOL!

    Thank you for explaining.
    Read the entire thread...might help. Different spokes for different folks...stop being so blasted superficially sanctimonious. You dont know everything and are not perfect.

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    After much deliberation I ordered a Tern P7i from Thor. It was just delivered but I won't get to unpack & set it up until the weekend. I'll post some first-week observations after my first week of riding and transiting. It's not inexpensive, but the upgraded components, adjustable handlebar, and especially 85psi Marathon tires made the decision for me vs. the D7i.

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