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    I've been riding with an Alfine 11 on my Swift for a few months now. It is very quiet; all I hear when pedaling is an annoying squeak from ??? (still to be fixed). The 400% gear range is plenty for me, and if they could cram the same range into just 8 gears I think I'd be fine with that. I am often taking two gears at a time when I shift.

    A significant advantage for IGHs and this hub in particular, on a small-wheeled bike, is that the torque input to the hub is reduced vs. a full-size bike. There were a lot of reports of broken Alfine 11's due (it seems) to some combination of poor cable adjustment, and running with a front/back tooth ratio smaller than the Shimano-recommended 1.9. That's pretty easy to do on a full-size, especially a mountain bike! On my Swift the ratio is 50/18 = 2.8, and I have contemplated 40/18 = 2.2 for heavy loaded touring.

    The flip side to babying the hub thanks to our small wheels, is that the RPMs, and hence drag, is higher. I have personally not noticed much drag from the Alfine on my Swift, but the Swift has drop bars vs butterfly bars on my old commuter, so I have no real apples-to-apples comparison to make.

    Re: servicing, there are nice step-by-step directions for taking apart the Alfines, but I wouldn't dream of trying it myself with any hub. I'd probably lose a magic spring or strip some threads.

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    If the Alfine 11 was more cost-effective for me I'd possibly consider it. Currently I'm contemplating the (as per my questions) Sturmey-Archer 8-Speed hub. Even my LBS would be willing to service it, if necessary, in the future. They seemed to hold Sturmey-Archer in high regard for reliability & ease of service. I'm just wondering if the Shimano 8-Speed would be the better choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tds101 View Post
    If the Alfine 11 was more cost-effective for me I'd possibly consider it. Currently I'm contemplating the (as per my questions) Sturmey-Archer 8-Speed hub. Even my LBS would be willing to service it, if necessary, in the future. They seemed to hold Sturmey-Archer in high regard for reliability & ease of service. I'm just wondering if the Shimano 8-Speed would be the better choice.

    Sigh,... Decisions, decisions.
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    @smallwheeler - thanks. But, I can get a Sturmey-Archer 8-Speed hub kit for around $160, and the work to relace my custom wheelset is $40. Also, those are the slightly larger wheels. I use 406's exclusively, since I'm partial to fatty tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smallwheeler View Post
    "into a fast nimble 7 speed commuter"

    I've had a couple 7/8spd Nexus bikes w/rollers. I wouldn't say adding that much weight to a bike would make it fast and nimble.

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    Someone is interested in purchasing the bike, so if I get the asked price I'll sell it. If this sal3 falls through I'm going SA 8-Speed. I've sold an iPod classic, so I'm using the proceeds to get the hub then. And I'd just keep me XS.
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    A broken fame...again.

    Hey fellow Swift-aholics.

    This is my somewhat bi-yearly check-in. As you may or may not know, I've owned 2 Swifts since 2006, the first a silver one which cracked at the seat tube, and then a blue one which just recently developed a crack in the weld where the seat tube meets the bottom bracket shell:

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    I wouldn't say that I ride the bike particularly hard, but I can say that I ride it consistently, as it is my primary means of getting to work.

    In praise of the frame design, there was no catastrophic failure, and I was able to cycle safely home. I actually didn't realize how bad the problem was until close inspection. When the crack occurred, the bike just felt as if I had lost air in the back tire.

    Anyway, I've contacted Xootr support in the hopes that they will continue to honor the lifetime frame warranty in my case.

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    You still have it in fixie mode?

    I recently got my frame replaced when it cracked at the seat stays. About the same time I put into motion my plan to get a Swift built in Ti. Check out the thread on that. I will be selling my still almost new replacement Swift now that I have a Ti Swift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jur View Post
    You still have it in fixie mode?

    I recently got my frame replaced when it cracked at the seat stays. About the same time I put into motion my plan to get a Swift built in Ti. Check out the thread on that. I will be selling my still almost new replacement Swift now that I have a Ti Swift.
    Yup. I'm on my second set of bearings in my Soma fixed hub.

    Yeah, I saw your thread yesterday on your "SwiftTi". Incredible! Absolute eye-candy. I can't imagine how awesome it would be as a fixTi.

    I've been out-of-touch with the forum for some time. Where did you get that "swan-neck stem"? Is that a Bike Friday part?

    Update: Brian at Xootr is sending me a replacement frame. Can't wait to build it up.

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    Swift update!

    Well today I decided to fit some higher wider bars for comfort, then swapped out the kendas for some shwalbe duranos, removed wheel reflectors and this is how it now looks after a month of ownership from new, rather nice!
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    My Ti Swift swan neck riser/integrated stem is a Ti part that I copied from my Swift which has a Bachetta riser.
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    I fixed the issue with my NuVinci N360 hub. There's a nut on it to prevent the hub itself from being crushed when the nuts are tightened. I loosened it up and the wheel spins correctly now. It's still not the same as my Nexus 8-Speed hub, but it works as it should. I'm going to get some ride time tonight and see how it goes. I'm glad it was a simple fix.
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    Re-built my Swift around the replacement frame

    Wheels by Man You All Focus, on Flickr

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    Bike looks good!! Riding through the Presido is nice too!! hope to get Jur and Connie on that route when they visit..

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    @james_swift - the bike looks solid. I'm eventually going to remove the NuVinci hub, but mine is quite fast now. Heavy, yes, fast - HECK YES!!!
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    What I've noticed different about this current frame versus my 2006 frame:

    1.) Seat tube sections at the clamp points are seriously reinforced (thicker).
    2.) Welds where the chainstays and seat tube meet the bottom bracket shell are far more substantial. Almost looks excessive (which is fine, by my experience). The weld spills over to the very edge of the bottom bracket shell on the drive side.
    3.) Plastic weather seal integrated into the top headset locknut (now I won't need to resort to duct tape for rainy days).
    4.) Stem riser redesign. Clamp is rotated to the side now. Much lighter than the 2006 version.
    5.) Paint job looks thicker/more durable.
    6.) No creaking at the seat tube junction point, even though I'm running the seat post without the light application of grease as originally recommended for the earlier Swifts.

    I'm glad to see that Xootr has been refining/enhancing the frame design.

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    My Swift is rock solid. I've only experienced a small bit of creaking, but by tightening the seat clamp it was solved in seconds. Very solid ride,...and amazingly stable.
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    Just noticed the Rido RD2. How do you like it?

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    I like it, my style is for touring/upright seated position and I am normally crippled with pressure on my coccyx but the seat does what it says on the website admirably, especially with my seatpost from cane creek, my only problem is my rear is comfy but the harshness through the front aches my wrists and I get numb hands so ergo grips next as I have changed the bars already!

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    Higher and/or more swept-back bars? Wrist pain suggests you're carrying too much weight there. Or, really, any weight there. The current enthusiasm for bars below saddle height may work for some (competitors), but not, I suspect, for most. Big Apples for the harshness? And are your "privates" also happy with the RD2?

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    Saddle is good its just a case of finding the exact position for your sit bones to get most comfort, bars are higher, wider and swept back i think the grips are part of the problem so the ergos should hopefully dampen the buzz and spread my hands to a more comfy grip.

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    I ordered these handlebars from Amazon, and a set of inexpensive ergonomic comfort grips. The setup is excellent for my once achy wrists and my rotator cuff issue.

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    Anyone know a way to use suspended fork with new collapsible or removable stem. I would like some suspension up front. Thanks

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    just a quick (but exclusive) inquiry:

    would anybody in this forum be interested in purchasing the original steel prototype of the legendary "swallow".
    it's handmade by peter reich and probably the most pedigree and unique swift folder ever made.

    I need to give most of my bikes away because I'm planing a lengthy trip around the world and have to seriously minimize my belongings.
    Apologies in advance: I can not give this bike away cheaply as it probably is the most sought after swift folder of all time.
    If you are interested, please PM me via this forum.
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    I just finished up my swift build, and I love it.

    I have found a way to fold the xootr that makes it as compact as possible and be rollable, by removing the front tire and attaching it to the rear dropout with the QR skewer. I don't know if anyone else does this but it makes it so that in the city when my car is parked a couple blocks away I can take my bike still folded and roll it to my car while holding the seat. This fold also makes it really easy to carry from the seatpost and toss in the back seat or trunk easily. I'm able to hook my drop bars onto the bike as well. Attached are pictures.






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