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    Eurobike 2012 in two weeks / predictions ?

    Insight into what 2012 will bring ? Others attending ?

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    Dahon Curl finally appears?

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    loads of electric bikes ... new folders around every bend .... maybe a new Tern ? ( but most of them will stay the same as Tern has a 3 to 5 year model cycle )
    great show to go to..I will miss it this year :-(

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    not sure about the curl ..lol I am sure it will be there, but as long as it is not available I almost dont care ..lol ( its that moneymakin thing )

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    Is there another Octopus to predict the winner?

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    I hope Brompton will present price and sell start for their toolkit. Rumors says they will start selling it in august but who knows...
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    wonder if Bromton will be there ??? they have nothing to offer "new" as usual ust the same old 25+ years of "Proven" design. but I woudn't buy anything else !! well except a vintage Raleigh Twenty

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    Quote Originally Posted by EM42 View Post
    wonder if Bromton will be there ??? they have nothing to offer "new" as usual ust the same old 25+ years of "Proven" design. but I woudn't buy anything else !! well except a vintage Raleigh Twenty
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    Quote Originally Posted by EM42 View Post
    wonder if Bromton will be there ??? they have nothing to offer "new" as usual ust the same old 25+ years of "Proven" design. but I woudn't buy anything else !! well except a vintage Raleigh Twenty
    They still need to promote to new markets as they are doubling factory capacity in 2013. If the demographic of Eurobike offers new opportunities you can still be new to some people. Rather than product development or diversification it's all about market development for a company like Brompton. Remember they have grown 25-30% per annum over the last few years with 75% of production units being exported but they are still a small-manufacturing company. Let's hope they never get too corporate.

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    I'm sure it will be a pretty price. If they can make a lighter frame as per the speculation in the article, that would open up other possibilities in lightweight (albeit expensive) Bromptons surely?

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    CH White already sells electric Bromptons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brakemeister View Post
    loads of electric bikes ... new folders around every bend .... maybe a new Tern ? ( but most of them will stay the same as
    You have insight into where electrics are going? Aside from using LiPos , energy density hasn't changed much over past 2-3 years. Everyone just seems to be strapping cells in creative ways to bikes, front motor powered. Have seen growing percentage in DE shops, but few on the road. Personally like the packs completely hidden in the oversized down/monotube, thought that might have been Brompton's trick and intentionally reducing autonomy.

    What's funny is seeing electrics fitted with a roller dynamo to comply with StVZO .

    Hoping lighting technology will follow real trends in Cree's advances - still insane seeing how some companies are pulling wool over customers eyes when there are so many good,competitive <$50 solutions. When BUMM will adapt to new advances.

    What else?

    Maybe news for Rohloff developments? Lighter, more recognition of Shimano's approaching.

    Also interested in seeing any more gearbox alternatives or news on Pinion's 18 speed.

    Shall ask more about belt drive advances, word before was it was being adopted in marketing's name with too many other practical disadvantages.

    Maybe more adoption of more recent stainless/maraging steels, bringing steel frame weights down.

    Cool luggage accessories? Vaude has had some very fashionable award winning stuff with good reputation.

    New worthless bottom bracket technologies?

    Would like see more/talk to Schmidt others about Shutter Precision's offerings.

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    Tern posted on their Facebook page "Woohoo! Eurobike next week. Don't have too much new stuff but what we do have is really good. Like this bike...."


    A member of the BromptonTalk group posted about an announcement of changes in the 2013 Brompton range in Korean.
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    SunRace Sturmey-Archer has announced they will not be attending Eurobike this year.
    SRAM will be debuting their new G8 IGH.
    "When man first set woman on two wheels with a pair of pedals, did he know, I wonder, that he had rent the veil of the harem in twain? A woman on a bicycle has all the world before her where to choose; she can go where she will, no man hindering." The Typewriter Girl, 1899.

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    The brompton component upgrades are very interesting, they're pushing the bike beyond the 'great fold, crap components' category and changing the playing field in the process. Pics of the new components very much appreciated, for anyone who's attending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcs View Post
    SunRace Sturmey-Archer has announced they will not be attending Eurobike this year.
    SRAM will be debuting their new G8 IGH.
    It appears that SRAM updated their website recently because there is now a page for the G8.

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    New Tern Swoop :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by brakemeister View Post
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    New Tern Swoop :-)
    You know, Thor, I've never fancied those in either Dahon or (now) Tern guises. I dislike the frame shape a lot, unnatural looking IMHO. Guess there must be a market for them...

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    Is that Tern Swoop supposed to win over the female audience with that bike? As a man.... its really unappealing to me.
    Current: 2012 Tern Link D8 w/Brooks B17

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcmkk3 View Post
    It appears that SRAM updated their website recently because there is now a page for the G8.
    How is it they can have a spec page without listing total gear range or inter-gear-spacing ?

    Who do they think is reading those pages anyway? Someone that wouldn't care about that?

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    The swoop style bikes are probably aimed for the people in dresses,
    but I gotta admit I really appreciate the low stepover height of my folder because I have to get on and off it 10 times a day.
    Swinging my leg over a 700c frame seems annoying compared to just stepping over a folding frame.
    Just older and lazier I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chagzuki View Post
    The brompton component upgrades are very interesting, they're pushing the bike beyond the 'great fold, crap components' category and changing the playing field in the process. Pics of the new components very much appreciated, for anyone who's attending.
    Chags was hired by Will or they had a ghost forum member shadowing him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttakata73 View Post
    The swoop style bikes are probably aimed for the people in dresses,
    but I gotta admit I really appreciate the low stepover height of my folder because I have to get on and off it 10 times a day.
    Swinging my leg over a 700c frame seems annoying compared to just stepping over a folding frame.
    Just older and lazier I guess.
    I agree with this, or anticipate doing so. I know some 80+ y.o. people for whom the low stepover of a folder really helps keep them cycling, and the swoop does a good job for this contingent of our fellow cyclist. If/when the day comes, I will appreciate it I am sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chagzuki View Post
    The brompton component upgrades are very interesting, they're pushing the bike beyond the 'great fold, crap components' category and changing the playing field in the process. Pics of the new components very much appreciated, for anyone who's attending.
    My Korean, and my eyesight not to hot. Can anyone interpret what the upgrades are ? cheers
    it aint the size of your wheels, its the rhythm of you cadence. And I got powergrips too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mulleady View Post
    Chags was hired by Will or they had a ghost forum member shadowing him?
    Not yet.
    Though they seem to be reading my mind. I've just laced a front wheel with 20 spokes instead of 28 and it appears the 2014 models will have this as standard.
    Check the brake lever thread, gringo_gus, the translation is there.

    I'll will them to reduce the upsweep on the M handlebar, it's excessive and unnatural on a narrow bar, fatiguing on the wrists. Pointless and daft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gringo_gus View Post
    My Korean, and my eyesight not to hot. Can anyone interpret what the upgrades are ? cheers
    re: Brompton component upgrades

    Asked abiut this specifically, they mentioned chainwheel, rims, and the brake levers. Brake levers did feel nicer, similar to anything else you'd get for $10.

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