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    How many times....

    Heard from behind as Skippy passed two Cervelo-mounted* freds around mile 50 of an organized ride yesterday...

    "Ha, look at that, that's nuts! Doing this on a commuter bike!"

    They were out of sight behind me in just a minute or two, don't know if they made it to the end






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    Funny, thought the content of this thread was going to be "How many times..." do people keep posting trolling Threads without any real description of thread content in the subject title.

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    I wonder if he meant that he was riding his new Soma Mini velo?
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    It was just a toss-off thread, sharing his irritation with the severely limited understanding of folding bikes held by the general cycling public.

    That they can hold such disparaging views while getting dusted is, well, pathetic. You'd think it would trigger some critical re-evaluation of their uninformed, preconceived notions but...nope.

    How many times before their brains do fire? Maybe never.

    Skippy, btw, is his BikeFriday Pocket Rocket, I think.
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    Thanks, I see the names now. I wonder what the Soma has for a name?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynocoaster View Post
    Thanks, I see the names now. I wonder what the Soma has for a name?
    I vote for Pepe!
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    Liking the bike, are there more Skippy pics anywhere?

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    "Pepe"? Ay yay yi... I've been puzzling on that one, maybe something feminine though that may get me dangerously close to "s-1"

    Haven't named the Nano, either (maybe "Buzz").

    Pics? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bjorke/tags/bikefriday/ I guess.

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    Somantha
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    So, are you happy now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynocoaster View Post
    Somantha
    lol

    Think I'll go with "Belli-soma" since I'm pretty sure the Soma is a rebadged Bianchi and maybe "cranky" for the Nano

    (See http://gear11.blogspot.com/2012/08/j...nd-part-i.html to verify/defy my suspicion)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
    That they can hold such disparaging views while getting dusted is, well, pathetic. You'd think it would trigger some critical re-evaluation of their uninformed, preconceived notions but...nope.
    I have had riders say, "I thought those thinks were supposed to be slow" as I have passed them.

    Unfortunately I wasn't witty enough to say something like "Oh, they are"

    maybe next time I'll remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
    That they can hold such disparaging views while getting dusted is, well, pathetic. You'd think it would trigger some critical re-evaluation of their uninformed, preconceived notions but...nope.
    I have had riders say, "I thought those things were supposed to be slow" as I have passed them.

    Unfortunately I wasn't witty enough to say something like "Oh, they are"

    maybe next time I'll remember.

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    Just goes to show that the variation in speed between riders is bigger than the difference in speed between little wheels and large wheels. No surprise a fit guy on a folder can blow away other guys on tricked-out road racing bikes.

    But as much as I love making fun of the conformist views of orthodox roadies .... (flame suit on) I'm still finding wheel size to be making a bigger difference than I expected when I got my Swift last year. The small wheels may be not be "slow" when pedaled by a strong rider, but they are proving to be noticeably slowER. I've tested this extensively over the summer, both on my regular routes and in coast-down testing, and I'm consistently seeing an 8-10% difference for most of my riding. I find myself getting passed a LOT more when I'm on my Swift than when I'm on my cyclocross bike. Sorry to say, as of the last few weeks I'm finding myself only reaching for the folder when I actually need to be able to fold my bike.

    But of course I still pass people while riding my folder. And I still get passed while riding my 700c 'crosser. The rider is a bigger variable than wheelsize, without a doubt ... but wheelsize is an easier variable for me to change!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlowBoy View Post
    Just goes to show that the variation in speed between riders is bigger than the difference in speed between little wheels and large wheels. No surprise a fit guy on a folder can blow away other guys on tricked-out road racing bikes.

    But as much as I love making fun of the conformist views of orthodox roadies .... (flame suit on) I'm still finding wheel size to be making a bigger difference than I expected when I got my Swift last year. The small wheels may be not be "slow" when pedaled by a strong rider, but they are proving to be noticeably slowER. I've tested this extensively over the summer, both on my regular routes and in coast-down testing, and I'm consistently seeing an 8-10% difference for most of my riding. I find myself getting passed a LOT more when I'm on my Swift than when I'm on my cyclocross bike. Sorry to say, as of the last few weeks I'm finding myself only reaching for the folder when I actually need to be able to fold my bike.

    But of course I still pass people while riding my folder. And I still get passed while riding my 700c 'crosser. The rider is a bigger variable than wheelsize, without a doubt ... but wheelsize is an easier variable for me to change!
    8-10% is proof that the difference is negligible for the normal cyclist and proof that folders have no significant disadvantage. That differential only matters if you are engaging in competitive cycling or conducting your only personal time trials against yourself!

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    You should see the look on their faces when I pass them on my pacific carryme
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    Quote Originally Posted by MF Monk View Post
    You should see the look on their faces when I pass them on my pacific carryme
    Now that is a something to behold!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mulleady View Post
    8-10% is proof that the difference is negligible for the normal cyclist and proof that folders have no significant disadvantage.
    I would consider, say 2% -- even though that's more than a minute out of an hour ride, and completely unacceptable to a racer -- to be negligible for myself, and certainly most recreational riders. But I personally do not consider 8-10% to be negligible or insignificant. Not only does it add up to at least 5 minutes of difference on my evening trip home, but that extra (average) 1.5mph or so on big wheels makes my ride a whole lot more fun, and not feel like I haven't pumped up the tires in 2 months.

    Of course, if I actually needed the folding capability to enable my commute, I would certainly feel very, very differently. YMM(and D)V.
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