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Old 10-03-12, 11:52 AM   #1
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20" iF Mode?

Happened to see this on another forum:

iF 20 twenty
http://www.foldingforum.com/forum/vi...php?f=15&t=815



Anyone knows more about it?
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Old 10-03-12, 12:15 PM   #2
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Without clicking through, thought this might be a one-off from Independent Fabrication, which I love - probably explains why I own three IF's. But looking at the pic, ain't no way the friendly folks at IF produced anything like this. I have no clue.

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Old 10-03-12, 01:33 PM   #3
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iF is referring to the iF series of folding bicycles made by Pacific Cycles and originally designed by MAS Design (the firm that also designed the Strida).
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Old 10-04-12, 05:53 AM   #4
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That's a cool looking bike, I love single sided axles.
Unfortunately it looks and probably is relatively heavy which to me defeats the purpose of a folding bike that one must carry from time to time.
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That's a cool looking bike, I love single sided axles.
Unfortunately it looks and probably is relatively heavy which to me defeats the purpose of a folding bike that one must carry from time to time.
The other forum that is linked to in the first post claims a weight of 10kg which would make it pretty light for a folding bike. Especially since it has disc brakes.
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Old 11-26-12, 10:11 PM   #6
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Someone in Taiwan posted many more picture of 20" iF Mode on Facebook. You must log in to see them. (It's free to create a Facebook account. You don't have to actually use it.)

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...8398140&type=3

Note that there are also photos of many Birdy accessories: chain tensioner, hydraulic suspension, etc.
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Old 12-14-12, 04:41 PM   #7
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I can confirm that this might or might not go into production in 2013. It will also be around the 10kg mark, under that with a few mods we all love.

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Where does the seatpost go? telescopic types run it down behind the BB.. but it looks like the BB
is behind the seat tube, and no opening, so wont work, like that , so I suppose You Have to pull it out

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Old 12-14-12, 06:05 PM   #9
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Looks cool,but wondering how compliant that fork is. Also,what would the price be?
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What is the black long thing under the main hinge?
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Old 12-16-12, 04:43 PM   #11
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What is the black long thing under the main hinge?
"3-dimensional, 4-Bar link" which 'locks hinge and guides the wheels so they fit together axle to axle'.
Source: https://picasaweb.google.com/1053980...57473610432322
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Old 12-16-12, 07:40 PM   #12
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"3-dimensional, 4-Bar link" which 'locks hinge and guides the wheels so they fit together axle to axle'.
Source: https://picasaweb.google.com/1053980...57473610432322
Thanks for the link. Is it intended to affect the folding? ride steering? both?
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I just realized that it looks like the bike has 0 degree trail/caster... the handling mustn't be too hot on that thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle...geometry#Trail
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Most small wheeled folders have near-zero trail. . . can't really tell from the picture if this is any more severe/extreme.
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If you look carefully at the picture, you'll see the steering axis does not go through the center of the 'fork', it is offset - giving a very normal steering axis and trail. Expect nothing short from Pacific - they are masters of great handling bikes, even their 8" wheeled carryme, has brilliant handling, when most traditional bike 'experts' say its impossible to get such small wheeled bikes to handle well.
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http://www.bfold.com/StoreFrameset.htm

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[TD="class: bfold2005, colspan: 2"]IF-Mode
The clean and striking IF Mode is aimed at commuters of the mobile generation who, until now, may have not considered cycling or folding bikes to be an option. IF Mode is a unique product that offers a new image for people who previously thought bikes were for enthusiasts only.
IF Mode avoids oily chains, complex tube with hidden dirt traps and the clutter of traditional bicycle features. It can be used by city commuters who do not want to change their appearance into ‘bicycle warriors’ and may use public transport or their car for some of the journey. IF Mode looks at home folded up on a smart subway train or in an office, just like a sleek mp3 player or other well designed accessory in your life. It also performs on the street like any lightweight well balanced full size bike.

IF Mode has won 2008 Eurobike Award, iF Product Design 2009 Gold Award, and Taiwan Excellence Silver Award.
Price: $2500
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Most small wheeled folders have near-zero trail. . . can't really tell from the picture if this is any more severe/extreme.
Are you sure?
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I still don't see that fork giving a good ride.
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Video of bigger brother by NYCE wheels: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=4QLRlznMUYE

Fork ? surely a blade ?? (fork = 2 blades No ?)
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if only NYCE wheels spent as much time on customer service as they do on video promos they call "reviews", they would be a much better shop. if i have any problem with my bike that i can't repair myself or i need parts for an upgrade, i always go to b-fold, where dave still has this old-fashioned idea that customer service is paramount.. go figure..
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if only NYCE wheels spent as much time on customer service as they do on video promos they call "reviews", they would be a much better shop. if i have any problem with my bike that i can't repair myself or i need parts for an upgrade, i always go to b-fold, where dave still has this old-fashioned idea that customer service is paramount.. go figure..
Have you first hand experience of NYCE? I've heard from other posters that both shops are good and it is just a matter of which is closest.
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I have a Pacific Reach IF and I can vouch that it handles very well. It is just as good a ride as my Moulton TSR30.
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I have a Pacific Reach IF and I can vouch that it handles very well. It is just as good a ride as my Moulton TSR30.
So you do have one? When did you get it?
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So you do have one? When did you get it?
About 18 months ago. Fold is very good too. Lovely bike and very happy with it :-)
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