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    Mezzo D10 or Tern

    It's about time to retire my Mezzo D4, which I got second hand 4 years ago. I've really enjoyed it and only have two gripes: 1) I cycle a pretty flat 13 miles every day for my commute (6.5 mi each way, with a train ride in the middle) and I'm finding the gearing to be just too low; and 2) the handle bars always seem to develop a wobble, even after replacing the folding joint and clip with new ones.

    So now I'm struggling to choose between getting a Mezzo D10 and going for a Tern. The Link P9 and Verge P18 have both caught my eye. My specific concerns:
    • Mezzo D10: Likely to have same handle bar joint issue, which I suspect is caused by the fact that me + luggage weighs about 105kg - very close to the maximum rating
    • Verge P18: A nice bike, but I worry that the front derailer is an unnecessary extra thing which
    • Link P9: As with the Verge, it seems very bulky when folded ... I'm used to a Mezzo which is nice and compact


    I'd appreciate any opinions on offer, esp from those with experience of these bikes.

    TIA

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    I was looking at the Mezzo D10 in Harrods the other evening, of all places, it really is a very nice bike, 975 i think was the price. For that kind of money i might be tempted to look at some of the Birdy models, see what they have to offer. As to the stem wobble, I'm sure Joan will be along shortly to outline her experience of Mezzo stem joints. The smalest Terns are 20" wheels, so always going to be a bigger package. D10 is a very cool looking bike though, the forward step out of the stem and handlebars is no where near as pronounced on the D10 and the D9 with the curved toptube, probably why they made the change.
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    I've been riding a Tern Link P9 for a month or two, commuting 6 miles each way 5 days a week and dragging into onto trains and tubes. It's a lovely bike to ride and that's where I feel most satisfied with it. There's an issue with the chain ring protector which means that the chain does occasionally drop when switching between 8th and 9th gear at speed or when you hit a bump. It can be rectified by pushing the protector closer to the chain (it's a common problem). That's the only issue I've had with the ride. Even the saddle has become comfortable after breaking it in.

    I feel less satisfied when I'm lugging it around on a train. The magnetics that hold the fold together are too weak and the bike can swing open (I've spoken to Tern about this and they're producing better magnetics that will be available next year), though you can hold it against yourself to prevent this. It's possible to wheel it around, but as the handlebar stem folds outside of the bike, it allows the front wheel to turn, pulling the fold apart or pushing the tire against the frame meaning you have to be a little more careful compared to my friend's Dahon Mu Uno (which has much better magnetics, I might add). The fold is compact enough to stick into a corner at work or on the train and not bother anyone though.

    That's my honest full opinion and I don't mean it to sound negative. I'm very pleased with it but I feel that I'll get something with a more compact fold next time as long as it rides as well as the Link P9. Lots of people comment on how good it looks and it's generally a lovely bike, however, if the ride on the Mezzo is good then I'm probably swerve towards that. The fold looks great!

    If you've got any more questions about this particular bike (I'm not very experienced with other folders unfortunately) then feel free to ask.
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    Dont know about terns, but the mezzo stem play is an adjustment issue from what I can gather on the forums not a replacement. I have to adjust mine on both bikes about once a year.

    1) stem play is adjusted out in my expereience on Mezzos. See the "Mezzo thread", and upgrading a mezzo. My adjustment advise is second to last post on following page.
    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...upgrades/page2
    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...upgrades/page3
    2) D10 had same stem.
    3) Undergreading- see the same upgrading a Mezzo thread or dual drive on a mezzo thread. Nexus. alfine, dual drive 56tooth front are possibilities as is a geared crank. Expensive but nice

    Can the D4 be fitted with a smaller rear cog??

    If you want to sell your D4 then let me know please.
    Last edited by bhkyte; 10-11-12 at 11:35 AM.
    Dual drive Mezzo (GOLD), Dual Drive Mezzo with bullbars (black), White Brompton thingy with Dahon Androes stem and bull bars. Birdie (old sytle) 7 speed. Downtube NS8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhkyte View Post
    stem play is adjusted out in my expereience on Mezzos. See the "Mezzo thread", and upgrading a mezzo. My adjustment advise is second to last post on following page.
    Great stuff! It's rock solid now. :-) I didn't suspect that it could be adjusted ... and clearly neither did the bike shop mechanics who serviced it last! :-( Very annoying since they actually stock Mezzo bikes and I've always had a good impression of them before now.

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    Can the D4 be fitted with a smaller rear cog??
    Bike shop told me no, since this was something I explicitly asked about. They also told me that it couldn't fit a larger chainring on the front either.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkyte View Post
    If you want to sell your D4 then let me know please.
    Thanks, but I've already got a friend locally who is interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willy.woanty View Post


    Bike shop told me no, since this was something I explicitly asked about. They also told me that it couldn't fit a larger chainring on the front either.
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    This is incorrect.
    A 56 tooth gog will fit. But you need to change the chain guard. Birdie make a guard for a 56t, about 25.
    Dual drive Mezzo (GOLD), Dual Drive Mezzo with bullbars (black), White Brompton thingy with Dahon Androes stem and bull bars. Birdie (old sytle) 7 speed. Downtube NS8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willy.woanty View Post
    Thanks, but I've already got a friend locally who is interested.
    My friend has decided he's not interested. Please let me know if you are interested in acquiring it, otherwise it will be going on Ebay.

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    Which bike you decided to replace your I4 Mezzo with?
    If bhkyte doesn't want to buy your Mezzo I might be interested depending on where you are and the price.

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