Tech advice for Automatic hub upgrade of Brompton
So I have my Brompton S2L about a year and I love it. I have been thinking recently about going for the upgrade that I was reading about pre-purchase, namely an automatic hub.
Having read around a little, the hub I'm looking at is a Fichtel & Sachs Torpedo AUTOMATIC (A 2110) Blue Band - I've read hear that the OLD is better suited to the Brompton rear triangle. I am a little concerned that the Blue band is designed for a larger diameter wheel. Has anyone any experience with calibrating the spring for a 16" wheel? Also the one I'm looking at is a 36H model. I think I read here a while ago that 36 spokes are difficult to accommodate on such a small wheel. Has anyone any thoughts on this? I've seen some commentary that coaster brakes aren't ideally suited to the fold but that a derailleur chain-tensioner such as the one on the S2L is the least-worst option. Lastly, the model I'm looking at looks to be 18T. Are there any physicists out there who can tell me what the difference would be between a 12/16T rear cassette on the bike now and an 18T with 1:1 and 1:1.36 ratios would be in terms of performance. I'm pretty sure I have the standard sized front chainring (44T). I'm embarrassed to say I can't say for sure! Any advice gratefully received. |
Here is a gear calculator from Sheldon Brown.
http://sheldonbrown.com/gears/ Check out the 2 speed automatix from Sram. |
Brompton with an Sram A2
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...n-a-Brompton-) |
You may wish to check out my thread. I used one of the new 28h SRAM Automatix hubs.
Needs a few mods i.e. modify the change up speed and take off a locking nut/mill one down. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7107/7...5da520c5_z.jpg You need a dished rear sprocket to get the chain line right. The smallest dished one you can get is 16T and with a 54T main, it will give you 56" and 76". I modified mine to auto change up at 11 mph. Regards Jerry |
Thanks Jerry
For the time being, the hub I'm looking at is an original Fichtel (sp?) & Sachs Torpedo Automatic 36H 'Blue band' which I think has a much more favourable OLD. It's a coaster brake model too so there's that to consider. I really need advice on changing the changeover speed of that to 16" wheels. I know someone posted a bit about one before - I'll spend a little time later chasing that post down. Thanks again for your interest. Des |
I believe Sesamecrunch used that hub on a Moulton.
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Originally Posted by Dynocoaster
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I believe Sesamecrunch used that hub on a Moulton.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=279154 http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=279155 The shifting mechanism is basically the same as the new SRAM Automatix (and uses many of the same parts) and is adjusted the same way.. either through spring manipulation, winding your own springs (what I did), or modifying the flyweights.. I also run the SRAM Automatix on a belt drive Moulton TSR-2.. Moulton Dahon Titanium 700c |
Thanks Bruce. As you say you wound your own springs, I'm guessing you're reasonably 'pro' at this. Can you advise if I can adjust a blue band sufficiently to cope with a 16" wheel? Is the only difference between the blue and red the spring - i.e. there's nothing stopping me considering this for a Brompton?
Thanks for your input. |
Originally Posted by elfneedsfoodbad
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Thanks Bruce. As you say you wound your own springs, I'm guessing you're reasonably 'pro' at this. Can you advise if I can adjust a blue band sufficiently to cope with a 16" wheel? Is the only difference between the blue and red the spring - i.e. there's nothing stopping me considering this for a Brompton?
Thanks for your input. |
Thanks. I may have rambled a bit in my question. I guess what I really want to know is can I get a blue bad hub to work with my 16" wheel or should I wait to see if I can if a red band hub becomes available?
Apologies for harassing you! |
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Originally Posted by elfneedsfoodbad
(Post 14862011)
Thanks. I may have rambled a bit in my question. I guess what I really want to know is can I get a blue bad hub to work with my 16" wheel or should I wait to see if I can if a red band hub becomes available?
Apologies for harassing you! |
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