Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 27
  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    scotland
    My Bikes
    dahon
    Posts
    29
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    new to the forum and need advice.

    Hi folks, my name is alex and i,m from scotland, and i am about to purchase a dahon folder,
    but i need something that i can do some long distance touring on has anyone got any advice on which model to choose?
    I will only be using back rack and two back panniers so travelling quite light. tent, sleeping bag, bike tools, some light clothes, etc...

    Your help is much appreciated.

    Thanks
    Alex.

  2. #2
    The Recumbent Quant cplager's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Norwalk, CT
    My Bikes
    2012 Cruzbike Sofrider, 2013 Cruzigami Mantis
    Posts
    2,905
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by foldup68 View Post
    Hi folks, my name is alex and i,m from scotland, and i am about to purchase a dahon folder,
    but i need something that i can do some long distance touring on has anyone got any advice on which model to choose?
    I will only be using back rack and two back panniers so travelling quite light. tent, sleeping bag, bike tools, some light clothes, etc...

    Your help is much appreciated.

    Thanks
    Alex.
    The longer more varied terrain you are going to be cycling, the more important (in my opinion) that it be geared appropriately.

    In general, make sure it's comfortable, particularly if you're going to be on it for long periods of time.

    Are you looking only at 20" wheels or bigger (or smaller) as well?

    The more you tell us, the more we can help you.

    Cheers,
    Charles
    http://Charles.Plager.net
    http://RecumbentQuant.blogspot.com

  3. #3
    New usename ThorUSA brakemeister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Southern Illinois USA
    Posts
    2,469
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Hi welcome to the fold
    There are so many models of Dahons and Terns and and a few others..lol that this might be mindboggling to say the least.

    You would need a traveller rear rack ( higher than the arclite ) and gives you some more clearnce for panniers.... Most bikes do NOT come with that ... so you will need to figure in the upcharge for that carrier ( 60 to 75 dlr)

    Good part is that it will fit on most folding bnikes..certainlay all Tern and Dahon ....

    Now the next question... you can choose between STeel frame or Alloy frame bikes
    Internal gears or external and a combination thereoff
    20 inch or bigger ...( inside joke for our Brommy friends)
    and and and

    are you looking for used or new ?
    do you commute with it as well ... how many times a day folding ? or "just" for weekend trips ?

    Let us know more
    Thanks Thor

  4. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    scotland
    My Bikes
    dahon
    Posts
    29
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    it will be 20" wheels and it will be a new bike alloy frame or steel it doesnt matter for me its going to be used for a 6 month road trip around scotland and europe... france, holland, germany, and would need a good gearing set up for those dreaded hills haha! external gears. hope this helps. my budget will be £750 just for the bike.
    and thanks.
    Alex

  5. #5
    lowlife bottom feeder BassNotBass's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Lou-evil, Canned-Turkey USA
    Posts
    1,855
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    If you were here in the USA I would seriously suggest the Bike Friday Companion Select 16 (16 speed, not 16" wheels) which is available in three sizes and sells for $995 USD. But then maybe shipping costs aren't too outrageous.

    http://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/touring/1161
    I plan on living forever... so far so good.

  6. #6
    Senior Member badmother's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    2,941
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by BassNotBass View Post
    If you were here in the USA I would seriously suggest the Bike Friday Companion Select 16 (16 speed, not 16" wheels) which is available in three sizes and sells for $995 USD. But then maybe shipping costs aren't too outrageous.

    http://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/touring/1161
    Actually, could be shipping and tax...
    °Empty drums make a lot of noice... (Old Hungarian proverb).

  7. #7
    coprolite fietsbob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    NW,Oregon Coast
    My Bikes
    7
    Posts
    3,080
    Mentioned
    43 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Avon Valley (Bath) is the UK representitive for bike friday, they would import, wholesale then retail to buyer.
    http://www.avonvalleycyclery.co.uk/A...=bike%20friday

  8. #8
    Senior Member badmother's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    2,941
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by foldup68 View Post
    it will be 20" wheels and it will be a new bike alloy frame or steel it doesnt matter for me its going to be used for a 6 month road trip around scotland and europe... france, holland, germany, and would need a good gearing set up for those dreaded hills haha! external gears. hope this helps. my budget will be £750 just for the bike.
    and thanks.
    Alex
    What about comfort/ suspension?
    Bikes with suspension is often heavy, more maintenance and cost. In my opinion nothing you need if you are not counting on seriousely bad roads.
    Alu is said to be stiffer to ride, so you may want cushy tyres and maybe also sprung saddle if you buy alu.
    Steel (at least better quality bikes) is said to be more "cushy" in the feel, you may want this if you like the narrow hard tyres like some do.


    Do you want the seatpost with a pump innside it? May be smart on a trip like that. Steel is easyer to repair (welding) if needed. Does colour matter?
    °Empty drums make a lot of noice... (Old Hungarian proverb).

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    scotland
    My Bikes
    dahon
    Posts
    29
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    Avon Valley (Bath) is the UK representitive for bike friday, they would import, wholesale then retail to buyer.
    http://www.avonvalleycyclery.co.uk/A...=bike%20friday
    yea the bike fridays are amazing but a bit to much out of my price range which is a shame.:

  10. #10
    Senior Member badmother's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    2,941
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    One of the three top ones http://www.wiggle.co.uk/dahon/ maybe? The last one is a Nuvinchi hub but that may be something you`ll like a lot..


    Edit: actually, that is far more than your budget. Calculation error. The £ is less than I expected..

    Would you want a new bike or is lightly used an option? Is budget with rack included?
    Last edited by badmother; 03-05-13 at 11:41 AM.
    °Empty drums make a lot of noice... (Old Hungarian proverb).

  11. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    scotland
    My Bikes
    dahon
    Posts
    29
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    well folks i think i am going to go with this as my tourer.
    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/dahon-visc-p18-2013/

  12. #12
    Senior Member smallwheeler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    1,741
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    well, of the dahons available from that site, you definitely chose the best looking one.
    interesting to watch dahon regain its footing after the divorce...

  13. #13
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    scotland
    My Bikes
    dahon
    Posts
    29
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

  14. #14
    Senior Member smallwheeler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    1,741
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    dahon has done a very good job with the mini velo bikes like the dash. also, one of their most underrated bikes was the cadenza p8. alfine 8 hub, disc brakes, wicked frame locking mech. it was awesome... of course, they promptly stopped making it. Dahon = ADD

    Last edited by smallwheeler; 03-05-13 at 04:26 PM.

  15. #15
    Banned.
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Brighton UK
    My Bikes
    20" Folder, Road Bike
    Posts
    1,664
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hi,

    With 20" wheels two back panniers is not an option,
    you'll get heel strike, and generally two front panniers
    are a better option. You need to think it all through.

    rgds, sreten.

  16. #16
    lowlife bottom feeder BassNotBass's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Lou-evil, Canned-Turkey USA
    Posts
    1,855
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by sreten View Post
    Hi,

    With 20" wheels two back panniers is not an option,
    you'll get heel strike, and generally two front panniers
    are a better option. You need to think it all through.

    rgds, sreten.
    That depends on a lot of factors but I've been able to avoid heel strike by mounting a rack up higher than just above the rear wheel and setting the panniers towards the back of the rack.
    I plan on living forever... so far so good.

  17. #17
    Banned.
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Brighton UK
    My Bikes
    20" Folder, Road Bike
    Posts
    1,664
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by BassNotBass View Post
    That depends on a lot of factors but I've been able to avoid heel strike by mounting a rack up
    higher than just above the rear wheel and setting the panniers towards the back of the rack.
    Hi,

    Indeed. Standard panniers won't work. You need to think it through.

    rgds, sreten.

  18. #18
    Senior Member badmother's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    2,941
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Like BNB said: Standard panniers on a tall rack: "avoid heel strike by mounting a rack up higher than just above the rear wheel and setting the panniers towards the back of the rack."

    Plenty of racks like that on the marked. You may want to look into a folding rack if you think you want to go small sometimes. A bike folded with the tall racks can be quite a lot bigger than standard racks: http://store.bikefriday.com/index.ph...a2d7e&cPath=64
    http://www.premiumbikegear.com/ternb...ertm-rack.html

    On the other hand it is recomended on a 20" folder that you carry some (or even most) of the load in front. Partly becouse on a folder a bigger % of the riders weight is transfered to the rear wheel but also becouse most folders feels more stable with some load in the front.

    My suggestion is to get the Dahon frontrack http://www.flickr.com/photos/7265463...n/photostream/ and a regular low rack in the back and use a racktop bag or similar there (if that is enough for your need of course). No need to go for the small front bags with that rack unless you want to go offroad.

    The second folder you linked to is a great looking bike but I think you may run into problems traveling with it. It is not considered a real foldingbike around here (too big folded) and therefor you may not be allowed on the trains you want and you may have to pay for the bike. A regular 20" (or smaller) bike in a bag is just "luggage" and free to travel with.
    °Empty drums make a lot of noice... (Old Hungarian proverb).

  19. #19
    coprolite fietsbob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    NW,Oregon Coast
    My Bikes
    7
    Posts
    3,080
    Mentioned
    43 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Rear rack sits High above the smaller wheels in Back , just so You Can use common panniers.
    It does leave a space between the Mudgiard over the rear tire and the underside of the rack for a long stuffsack.
    so it does not have to be wasted space.

    but the bags should be rearset further to get heel clearance.

  20. #20
    Senior Member badmother's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    2,941
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Not wasted space under the rack, absolutely. Just saying that sometimes when entering a plane, train or similar size matters and there can be situations where the tall rear rack is a problem. Can be solved by using a foldable one.
    °Empty drums make a lot of noice... (Old Hungarian proverb).

  21. #21
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    scotland
    My Bikes
    dahon
    Posts
    29
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    yea about the paniers I have sorted it all out having the rack fitted higher than usual this is getting all done at the shop where i am getting the bike Thanks for all the davice guys its much appreciated!

  22. #22
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    scotland
    My Bikes
    dahon
    Posts
    29
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

  23. #23
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    293
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by foldup68 View Post
    6 month road trip around scotland and europe... france, holland, germany
    Any idea of particular areas to tour, Alex, or is it just as the fancy takes you?

  24. #24
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    scotland
    My Bikes
    dahon
    Posts
    29
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    hi, i think i will take it as it comes so i dont feel restricted, as ong as i have a map i will figure the routes out on the day haha

  25. #25
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    scotland
    My Bikes
    dahon
    Posts
    29
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    some nice classic dahon photos at this link. http://picsbox.biz/key/dahon%20iii%20classic

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •