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Old 03-26-13, 02:54 AM   #1
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Birdy & nobirdy


Two birdys? No
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Old 03-26-13, 03:06 AM   #2
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These Birdy-like folding bikes are made in China. The wheels are 20', bigger than Birdy's.
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These Birdy-like folding bikes are made in China. The wheels are 20', bigger than Birdy's.
I am familiar with RhineBike, the Chinese version of the Birdy (which is now made in Taiwan), but I don't recognize the bike at the far right; how does that one fold?
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Old 03-26-13, 11:49 AM   #4
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Second from the right also looks like 18" wheels and not 20".
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Were these on ebay UK about 2 years ago. Seem to remember a thread with birdie copies.
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Second from the right also looks like 18" wheels and not 20".
I think that one is a real Birdy.
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Yes, the second from the right is a real Birdy.
And the first from the right is a simplified version of RhineBike. The frame is hard tailed and so cannot be folded. But the front wheel can be folded. The frame is cheaper than normal version, and easier for speeding. And it can also fold the front wheel and handlebar for smaller bulk.
A normal version of RhineBike frame is about 1480RMB($239 USD), and a simplified version is about 1200RMB($193 USD) in China.
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As 20" size wheel is more popular than 18", a RhineBike can reduce cost and provide more choice for users to upgrade.
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If you write a little jingle, your great-grandchildren can still own the copyright to it. If you design something useful, you can get a patent for 17 years. After that, the design belongs to the world.
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Does anyone know if the RhineBike is available in the US?
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Does anyone know if the RhineBike is available in the US?
And the UK?
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I don't know, but maybe you can buy it on internet and ship it from China to UK/US
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If you write a little jingle, your great-grandchildren can still own the copyright to it. If you design something useful, you can get a patent for 17 years. After that, the design belongs to the world.
You could still own copyright on a bike too, if it has a distinct shape, which the Birdy does. Brompton has copyright on the distinct bend in the main tube, IIRC.
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I think I've seen these for sale on Alibaba and Aliexpress. It might be possible to get just the one via Aliexpress though there's the issue of customs and import duty to the UK.

Edit: 910 including shipping but presumably not including import duty. Very expensive.

You can buy just the frame and shipping is cheap, the total cost 343. Not bad.

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You could still own copyright on a bike too, if it has a distinct shape, which the Birdy does. Brompton has copyright on the distinct bend in the main tube, IIRC.
Or in the USA, a design patent on the appearance of an item. But these purely appearance or style issues are typically easy to design around, retaining function, if someone only wants to. IMO RhineBike wouldn't have any trouble even if Riese&Muller have a design patent or claim copyright - we were all able to see the difference between the appearance of RhineBikes and the original Birdy from little internet pictures.
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Someone in Taiwan bought a "Shanghai Birdy" frame to custom-build and had lots of complaints about its quality and weight:

http://blog.yam.com/austenchu/article/42162703
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