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    Birdy & nobirdy


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    These Birdy-like folding bikes are made in China. The wheels are 20', bigger than Birdy's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmoyNight View Post

    These Birdy-like folding bikes are made in China. The wheels are 20', bigger than Birdy's.
    I am familiar with RhineBike, the Chinese version of the Birdy (which is now made in Taiwan), but I don't recognize the bike at the far right; how does that one fold?

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    Second from the right also looks like 18" wheels and not 20".

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    Were these on ebay UK about 2 years ago. Seem to remember a thread with birdie copies.
    Dual drive Mezzo (GOLD), Dual Drive Mezzo with bullbars (black), White Brompton thingy with Dahon Androes stem and bull bars. Birdie (old sytle) 7 speed. Downtube NS8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratdog View Post
    Second from the right also looks like 18" wheels and not 20".
    I think that one is a real Birdy.

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    Yes, the second from the right is a real Birdy.
    And the first from the right is a simplified version of RhineBike. The frame is hard tailed and so cannot be folded. But the front wheel can be folded. The frame is cheaper than normal version, and easier for speeding. And it can also fold the front wheel and handlebar for smaller bulk.
    A normal version of RhineBike frame is about 1480RMB($239 USD), and a simplified version is about 1200RMB($193 USD) in China.

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    As 20" size wheel is more popular than 18", a RhineBike can reduce cost and provide more choice for users to upgrade.

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    If you write a little jingle, your great-grandchildren can still own the copyright to it. If you design something useful, you can get a patent for 17 years. After that, the design belongs to the world.
    "When man first set woman on two wheels with a pair of pedals, did he know, I wonder, that he had rent the veil of the harem in twain? A woman on a bicycle has all the world before her where to choose; she can go where she will, no man hindering." The Typewriter Girl, 1899.

    "Every so often a bird gets up and flies some place it's drawn to. I don't suppose it could tell you why, but it does it anyway." Ian Hibell, 1934-2008

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    Does anyone know if the RhineBike is available in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darukhan View Post
    Does anyone know if the RhineBike is available in the US?
    And the UK?

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    I don't know, but maybe you can buy it on internet and ship it from China to UK/US

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcs View Post
    If you write a little jingle, your great-grandchildren can still own the copyright to it. If you design something useful, you can get a patent for 17 years. After that, the design belongs to the world.
    You could still own copyright on a bike too, if it has a distinct shape, which the Birdy does. Brompton has copyright on the distinct bend in the main tube, IIRC.

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    I think I've seen these for sale on Alibaba and Aliexpress. It might be possible to get just the one via Aliexpress though there's the issue of customs and import duty to the UK.

    Edit: 910 including shipping but presumably not including import duty. Very expensive.

    You can buy just the frame and shipping is cheap, the total cost 343. Not bad.
    Last edited by chagzuki; 03-28-13 at 05:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jur View Post
    You could still own copyright on a bike too, if it has a distinct shape, which the Birdy does. Brompton has copyright on the distinct bend in the main tube, IIRC.
    Or in the USA, a design patent on the appearance of an item. But these purely appearance or style issues are typically easy to design around, retaining function, if someone only wants to. IMO RhineBike wouldn't have any trouble even if Riese&Muller have a design patent or claim copyright - we were all able to see the difference between the appearance of RhineBikes and the original Birdy from little internet pictures.
    "When man first set woman on two wheels with a pair of pedals, did he know, I wonder, that he had rent the veil of the harem in twain? A woman on a bicycle has all the world before her where to choose; she can go where she will, no man hindering." The Typewriter Girl, 1899.

    "Every so often a bird gets up and flies some place it's drawn to. I don't suppose it could tell you why, but it does it anyway." Ian Hibell, 1934-2008

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    Someone in Taiwan bought a "Shanghai Birdy" frame to custom-build and had lots of complaints about its quality and weight:

    http://blog.yam.com/austenchu/article/42162703
    (Google translation here)

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