jur

These struck me as very well designed indeed. I suspect they would be higher than the Helix price by a very big lump. When I looked, I didn't see any pricing info.

BruceMetras

Not only is there no price.. they are not even available .. until some time next year.. my enthusiasm will build when there is something I can actually buy and ride..

tds101 

The Burke 16 does pique my interest,...

marxmini

titanium always interests me.

bhkyte

I expressed interest. Looks like the missing link in many ways at addressing some of the limitations of available 16 inch folders. A fast compact folding bike that rides with little compromise is always my goal. No one produces it yet imo. Upgrades and tinkering gets close.

dezzie

Would interest me more with some suspension, i wish someone would bring out a titanium F framed Moulton, i love the old school look and ride of mine but a modern version without the modern Moulton price tag would be great!

marxmini

bridgestone moulton r2s would fit the bill

dezzie

Looks lovely but its in aluminium aint it? i dont want another alloy framed small bike but if this was titanium i may sell a kidney!

BruceMetras

Perhaps another Jur moment with his Ti guys .. I'd order one up in a heartbeat ....

smallwheeler

a titanium version of the moulton 60, perhaps?

fietsbob

Wrong shade , its chrome Plated .

smallwheeler

no, it isn't. it's stainless steel.

fietsbob

Is it Yours? got the receipt? take some Macro closeup?

the stainless shows the brazing material putting it together ,Cr plating covers it, I see No silver-brazing fillets.

BruceMetras

Stop smallwheeler!!! Please step away from the computer!! ..

That's almost exactly what I want!! Gotta' be the separable version though .. a Ti frame/joint should hold up a lot better than the aluminum version did .. of course a Ti Bridgestone/F-frame should be easier/cheaper to produce and I love that look also .. just have to control the rear end bobbing a bit ... oh what am I talking about.. never going to happen ..

jur

If you like I'll investigate the feasibility. Front suspension will be a challenge.

marxmini

i prefer the bridgestone moulton frame. i am in if this is produced. :-)

BruceMetras

I think the B/M would be the way to go... much easier to make parts.. simpler design, less to go awry ... especially the front suspension.. would want 406/451 accommodation... and track ends/horizontal drops for me... quill stem is good .. what a bike that would be ..

dezzie

Love the M60 frame, similar to the mk3 Moulton, very bling but at almost 4k in English money its just silly, get one under half that then maybe it will be a winner, until then i will continue to finish off my old speed!

dezzie

Problem with the Bridgestone is they have had quite a few snap at certain welds, that puts me off straight away for something so pricey.

smallwheeler

actually, the reason i thought of the m60 was because it seems as though it would be easier the fabricate a facsimile considering that the pivoting rear triangle is now becoming almost industry standard. whereas the Bridgestone rear assembly is unique and will no doubt require some additional engineering to build.

in fact, if we're talking about having a titanium moulton custom built, instead of separable why not just redesign it as a proper folding bicycle...

marxmini

it could work if a proper hinge and locking system can be utilised. i prefer that the handlepost does not fold just to make it more simple.

jur

I somehow lost a reply here many hours ago... Basically same as smallwheeler, the rear triangle will be more straight forward. I don't have the necessary engineering skills to design it strong enough for a B/M copy.

That folder is awesome! Looks like they found some Brompton hinges to use or something...

Also, with such a rear triangle it could swing under and become a bit smaller.

marxmini

the most simple frame of moulton, in my opinion, is the track bike. no suspension. simple rear triangle.

smallwheeler

some possibilities?

marxmini

yes, this is possible. very similar to the anemos zippy fold (brompton-like rear, tyrell front).