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Old 07-10-13, 08:12 PM   #1
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Want to convert Montague Crosstown to drops for touring

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I've got a Montague Crosstown, which I picked up about a month and a half ago (as it would fit in my trunk when folded, despite large wheels) to start commuting with.

I replaced the twist shifter for a trigger shifter and quickly got up to doing 30-50 mile weekend rides and riding during the week to work but hadn't ridden a bike for nearly a decade. I'm 6' tall and 190lb and I don't lean forward past to where I feel like my hands are taking a lot of weight - but I'm having issues with numbness in my ring and pinky fingers (compressed nerve) after 30 mile rides even with some good gloves and ergo grips. Regardless, I tried bar ends for more hand positions and they didn't do enough - even putting the bar ends in the center similar to Bontrager's Touring bar ( http://bontrager.com/model/04996 ) I still spend too much time on the flats. I thought about getting clip on aero bars... but I'm not sure I like the lack of control as half my riding is in a bike lane on public roads in the morning. I think butteryfly bars just look strange - so that leaves drops.

I've never ridden a bike with drops, oddly enough. And I dislike the idea of bar end shifters.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this is my gameplan:
  • Get an Anatomic bar. I was thinking the Bontrager is relatively cost-effective and looks to be good sized unless someone has some other recommendations.
  • Get ST-2300 shifter/brakes - Tektro Calipers have less than 1cm of cable travel - I think this means I can use them with road levers without issue.
  • With the ST-2300, I need to replace the rear cassette from a 7speed to an 8speed. I don't know if this also impacts anything else or the easiest way to do it or if I can just get an 8sped cassette with a dished inner gear.
  • The rear Altus derailleur does not have the same travel as a road derailleur , so I think I need a new rear derailleur .
  • As I lack a front derailleur (Montague Crosstown), the other lever just functions for brakes.
  • Eventually get a clamp on front derailleur if I feel like it.

Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated. I know it would have made more sense to get a dedicated road bike, but I got it into my head I wanted another folding Bike after having my Fuji for years (even though it sat unused for so long). I am okay with the extra weight and I thought the Montague design looked/worked neat. Only complaint is bottle mounts, but I ride with a camelback when I'm not commuting (which is only 4 miles to work each way so water isn't much an issue).
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Old 07-10-13, 11:15 PM   #2
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If you have never ridden a bike with drop bars, perhaps you should borrow or rent one for a day before modifying yours. You may discover that you don't want them after all. (I know this is heresy, but I personally hate them.) As far as I know, it's not a trivial or inexpensive mod, so it would be good to be sure it's what you want.
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Old 07-11-13, 12:45 PM   #3
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Hi,

I'd try bullhorns rather than changing out all that stuff.

rgds, sreten.
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Old 07-11-13, 04:21 PM   #4
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A trekking bar would swap straight on,give you multiple hand positions,and you'd be able to get aero when down in the 'drops'.

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Old 07-15-13, 08:12 AM   #5
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If you are strictly concerned about numbness issues, then I would reconsider trekking/butterfly bars. I had hand numbness issues on my Origami Crane which were eliminated by swapping out for Nashbar Trekking bars. (I had to add a quick release to the stem so that it would fold.). On a Montague they would look something like these Internet photos:

Drop bars will interfere with the fold of a Montague without developing some kind of work a round. The left drop will intersect with the rear wheel when folded.

Now, if you REALLY want to go the drop bar route, I can show you the path of least resistance. However, I wanted drops for the option of a more aero ride, but I'm still getting used to them and still feel some hand tingling at times. (If the hand issue becomes more serious I will have to consider trekking bars like I installed on my Origami, but at this time I think I'm going to be fine.)

I have worked around the folding interference by using Origin 8 Dropbar Ends:


This photo shows the drops with Tektro RL520 drop bar brake levers (long pull, for v-brakes) and Tektro RL741 cross levers on the flat bar (also for v-brakes). I find the addition of cross levers makes a great transition for a person not accustomed to drop bars. My current shifters are twist shifters but trigger shifters are in the box waiting for installation, at which point I'll streamline the cockpit cables a bit.

When folding the bike I quickly loosen the Allen bolt on the left drop bar end so that I can rotate it up like so:


I hope this information is helpful.

Good luck,

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Old 07-15-13, 09:03 AM   #6
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I think butteryfly bars just look strange - so that leaves drops.
To bad you choose appearance over functional solutions.
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Old 07-15-13, 02:52 PM   #7
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this looks cool:

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Old 07-16-13, 06:37 AM   #8
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Below is a pic of a Montague with drop bars. I suppose the owner turns the stem outward when folding. If you can afford the extra width during folded mode that's fine. My trunk is pretty tight, so I need my bike as flat as possible.
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Old 07-17-13, 11:01 AM   #9
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this looks cool:

That's mine. Really quite a difference between the original flat bars/grips/levers and the current setup.

I've done a bunch of mustache bar conversions like this. Tall Nitto Technomic stem with very little extension, to bring the bars closer to you. If you used a typical short road stem with a fair amt of extension, you'd almost be in the tuck position.
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That's mine. Really quite a difference between the original flat bars/grips/levers and the current setup.

I've done a bunch of mustache bar conversions like this. Tall Nitto Technomic stem with very little extension, to bring the bars closer to you. If you used a typical short road stem with a fair amt of extension, you'd almost be in the tuck position.
kudos on that sweet mod, dude.
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Old 07-17-13, 05:40 PM   #11
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are you still having issues with numbness fingers on a shorter ride?
have you try to put your saddle a little bit forward?

once I have same issues, until I move my saddle just a little bit forward. it is not only how tall are you and what size your bike is, but also comparison body length and leg
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