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Old 07-30-13, 04:31 PM   #26
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Bravo sir,well said. Sreten and I had a go round over in the General Forum regarding tire pressure where he claimed it was dependent on tire width due to a chart he has. He never fully explained why I have two sets of 700x28 tires that have wildly differing inflation recommendations on the sidewalls(Vittoria Randonneur max 85psi,Specialized All Conditions 115min-125max).
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Old 07-31-13, 10:37 AM   #27
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Bravo sir,well said. Sreten and I had a go round over in the General Forum regarding tire pressure where he claimed it was dependent on tire width due to a chart he has. He never fully explained why I have two sets of 700x28 tires that have wildly differing inflation recommendations on the sidewalls(Vittoria Randonneur max 85psi,Specialized All Conditions 115min-125max).
Hi,

115min to 125max is a ridiculously narrow range to put on tyre.

Optimum tyre pressures depend on tyre size and rider weight
if your using the tyre drop method of around 15% drop.

28mm tyres need ~ 70 psi for an average person.

If you are heavy and exceed the 85 psi rating,
you need a wider same tyre, or a stronger one.

I don't have to explain something stupid on a tyre.
115 to 125 psi printed on a 28mm tyre is inane.

rgds, sreten.

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Old 07-31-13, 11:04 AM   #28
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the problem with the statement :
You will have to be fit, because I go about
30% faster and 75% further on the road bike.

is, that some folks will take this very subjective/
personal opinion as somewhat a well funded fact.
Hi,

I have no idea what a well funded fact is. Average speeds
according to the two computers is, on the folder is 10mph,
13mph on the road bike and for my bike riding habits a fact.

I can't go much above 18mph @ 100 rpm on the 66 gear inch folder.
I can do 27mph @ 100 rpm on the 100 gear inch road bike going
down a mild hill or with a strong tailwind or a bit of both.

I can ride on the road bike at speeds that would kill me on the
folder, e.g. ~ 21mph on the flat no wind, on the folder ~ 16mph.

My folder routes are very flat, wind is the main issue. Road bike
bike routes are much more rolling with a lot off short hills and
longer minor hills. Riding a 20 mile road bike route on the folder
really does feel about as hard as doing a 35 mile route on the
road bike, and I'm not interested in doing 35 miles on the folder.

I don't want to do long distances on the folder, but up to say
20 miles in a day it is fine, I enjoy riding it, but it is not IMO
a mile muncher, the road bikes better for longer distances.

It is all personal experience, and that is why the idea of someone
taking me on on my folder with me on my road bike over 35 miles
I find quite amusing. For me it would be routine relatively low effort
ride, anyone who could keep up on the folder would be knackered.

As ever YMMV, my opinions are just that, you can take or leave.

rgds, sreten.

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Old 07-31-13, 11:52 AM   #29
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... Riding a 20 mile road bike route on the folder
really does feel about as hard as doing a 35 mile route on the
road bike, and I'm not interested in doing 35 miles on the folder.

I don't want to do long distances on the folder, but up to say
20 miles in a day it is fine, I enjoy riding it, but it is not IMO
a mile muncher, the road bikes better for longer distances.

It is all personal experience, and that is why the idea of someone
taking me on on my folder with me on my road bike over 35 miles
I find quite amusing. For me it would be routine relatively low effort
ride, anyone who could keep up on the folder would be knackered...
Don't judge others according to your own limitations. There are plenty of people here who do way more miles on their folders and do them at a quicker pace than you on your road bike. But hey... keep laughing, it's good medicine.
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... Optimum tyre pressures depend on tyre size and rider weight
if your using the tyre drop method of around 15% drop...
But you fail to recognize that rubber compund, rubber thickness, case material and construction and other factors play a large roll in a tire's characteristics and inflation pressures. As the saying goes "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".
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Don't judge others according to your own limitations. There are plenty of people here who do way more miles on their folders and do them at a quicker pace than you on your road bike. But hey... keep laughing, it's good medicine.
Hi,

Get a life. Talking about judging others ? There is no implication of
that in relating my experiences, and pure hypocrisy in your post.

My road bike is faster than my folder, don't blame me that it is true.

rgds, sreten.

I ride for the mileages. I don't try too hard. I could go faster.

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ok captain grumpy.
if it is a one piece crankset, then it will cost him 50 instead of 30 and he wont have
to worry about figuring out the BCD. see? there CAN be a bright side to things, bro..
Hi,

Quit your moronic personal comments.

Blah de blah blah blah blah tire pressure blah blah blah I bought a folding bike for Christmas blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah get off of my lawn blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

rgds, sreten.
You've gone too far sreten and I'm really PO'd... smallwheeler was quoting me so don't you dare give him credit for my moronic comments.
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But you fail to recognize that rubber compund, rubber thickness, case material and construction and other factors play a large roll in a tire's characteristics and inflation pressures. As the saying goes "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".
Hi,

Far too right. A lack of understanding of the fundamentals
doesn't make up for quoting possible pendatic details.

I'm fed up with those that don't try to understand things
from basic principles, intimating those that do don't know
what they are talking about, when they do, and implying any
analysis beyond their inane understanding is questionable.

I know / understand a shedload more about tyres than you do.
And the above statement is wrong, tyre pressure is largely
determined by size and load, not the construction details.

rgds, sreten.

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Old 07-31-13, 02:13 PM   #34
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Hi,

Far too right. A lack of understanding of the fundamentals
doesn't make up for quoting possible pendatic details.

I'm fed up with those that don't try to understand things
from basic principles, intimating those that do don't know
what they are talking about, when they do, and implying any
analysis beyond their inane understanding is questionable.

I know / understand a shedload more about tyres than you do.
And the above statement is wrong, tyre pressure is largely
determined by size and load, not the construction details.


rgds, sreten.

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Old 07-31-13, 02:39 PM   #35
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BassNotbass and sreten,

Thank you for your efforts to stir up interest in your forthcoming Match Race, much in the manner of pugilists trash-talking before a bout. I outlined a "There and Back Again" format in the Dreamslide thread and since no one has stepped up to sreten's challenge against that peculiar two-wheeler, it looks like you two will face off first in Brighton.

We need to set a date and then I'll get to work on planning the course. I have set pre-match odds at 3/2 for each of you.

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BassNotbass and sreten,

Thank you for your efforts to stir up interest in your forthcoming Match Race, much in the manner of pugilists trash-talking before a bout. I outlined a "There and Back Again" format in the Dreamslide thread and since no one has stepped up to sreten's challenge against that peculiar two-wheeler, it looks like you two will face off first in Brighton.

We need to set a date and then I'll get to work on planning the course. I have set pre-match odds at 3/2 for each of you.

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Well first I have to be clear on something. Granted I never smoked (well at least I didn't inhale) but will my cocaine and meth habits be considered "doping"? I acknowledge the fact that I may have the advantage of a consistent elevated heart rate, the seemingly unending energy reserves of a zombie and the ability to go for days without sleeping but will that strip me of a win?
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Hi,
I'm fed up
rgds, sreten.
well, i guess IT"S ON!


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oh man... it's amazing what a little makeup and creative photography can do for a cat.
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Well first I have to be clear on something. Granted I never smoked (well at least I didn't inhale) but will my cocaine and meth habits be considered "doping"? I acknowledge the fact that I may have the advantage of a consistent elevated heart rate, the seemingly unending energy reserves of a zombie and the ability to go for days without sleeping but will that strip me of a win?
We don't have the budget, or the inclination, for drug testing. Similar to a "No Holds Barred" wrestling match, anything goes, so it doesn't matter what methods you use to cross the finish line first. However, I reserve the right to make adjustments to the course while the race is underway if I think that it would result in a more exciting race (or provide the house with a better outcome with regards to the betting).
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OK... so I'll sandbag for 75% of the course until the last 15 miles. There will be check points ("smoke" breaks) along the way, right?

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Smoke breaks - we'll have to think about that. I suspect that sreten has mastered the ability to smoke while underway - and in the other thread he proposes a different kind of break that threatens to turn this event into a pub crawl.
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Yeah I saw that.
A stout works best:
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115min to 125max is a ridiculously narrow range to put on tyre.
I don't have to explain something stupid on a tyre.
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I know / understand a shedload more about tyres than you do.
And apparently more about tires than Specialized does. You should e-mail them and set them straight.

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And the above statement is wrong, tyre pressure is largely
determined by size and load, not the construction details.
Then why does Kenda offer two 26x1.5" Kwests;one rated for 65psi max,the other for 100psi max?
http://www.kendatire.com/en/bicycle/commuter/kwest/

You really believe that you can give advice beyond what the tire manufacturers recommend? You're honestly asking people to ignore Specialized and Kenda and listen to your advice instead?
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there should be prizes.

i propose,

First Place:

a pair of 145psi Schwalbe Duranos:


AND the new KCNC Cobweb K3 60T chainring:

Second Place:


and/or:

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Well done smallwheeler - having prizes definitely adds prestige to the match and those are especially appropriate for this particular contest...
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