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Old 08-05-13, 12:06 PM   #1
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ChangeBike Vs. Montague Paratrooper?

Hi Guys,

My first post here, just wanted to get your advice before splashing out my hard earned money

I am 5'8'' tall and weigh 70kgs...

I wanted a full size folding bike that would be good off road.

After much searching the net, I narrowed myself down to the Montague Paratrooper Pro and the ChangeBike, though I didn't find any reviews on the changebike.

I would appreciate your responses and recommendations.

Thanks.
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Old 08-05-13, 04:46 PM   #2
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Wow, that's pretty cool -




I notice that it's a 26" wheel, while the Montague is a 700c wheel. But on the other hand, the ChangeBike just looks like a (relatively) normal mountain bike...
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Old 08-07-13, 11:32 AM   #3
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The Paratrooper Pro also has 26" wheels: http://www.montaguebikes.com/paratro...ding-bike.html

The standard bike componentry are easy enough to compare, so I'll just weigh in on the design differences I noticed:

LOCKS- In order to fold/unfold:
The Changebike has 2 locks - a latch and toothed tubes at the top of the seat tube as well as a quick release at the bottom bracket.
The Montague has 1 quick release lock on the top tube.
Advantage- Montague

PEDALS
The Changebike requires the removal of the right side pedal and re-insertion on the opposite side of the crank arm.
The Montague doesn't require pedal removal.
Advantage- Montague

SECURING THE FRONT WHEEL WHEN FOLDED:
The Changebike has a dropout on the seatstay for the front wheel's QR skewer that secures it rigidly.
The Montague has a single Velcro strap to secure the wheel to the handlebar.
Advantage- Changebike

WATER BOTTLE MOUNTS:
The Changebike has 2 according to some of the pictures submitted on their website.
The Montague has 1.
Advantage- Changebike
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The Paratrooper Pro also has 26" wheels: http://www.montaguebikes.com/paratro...ding-bike.html

The standard bike componentry are easy enough to compare, so I'll just weigh in on the design differences I noticed:

LOCKS- In order to fold/unfold:
The Changebike has 2 locks - a latch and toothed tubes at the top of the seat tube as well as a quick release at the bottom bracket.
The Montague has 1 quick release lock on the top tube.
Advantage- Montague

PEDALS
The Changebike requires the removal of the right side pedal and re-insertion on the opposite side of the crank arm.
The Montague doesn't require pedal removal.
Advantage- Montague

SECURING THE FRONT WHEEL WHEN FOLDED:
The Changebike has a dropout on the seatstay for the front wheel's QR skewer that secures it rigidly.
The Montague has a single Velcro strap to secure the wheel to the handlebar.
Advantage- Changebike

WATER BOTTLE MOUNTS:
The Changebike has 2 according to some of the pictures submitted on their website.
The Montague has 1.
Advantage- Changebike
My mistake on the paratrooper, I only realized after posting that it has 26" wheels (whereas the montagues with the double top tube have 700c wheels).

The Montague has the advantage in only having 1 place to change to fold the bike, but the Changebike has the advantage of having a more traditional diamond frame - it feels different riding it (I have ridden a Montague).

On the pedals, I think one can simply choose not the change the pedals on the Changebike, yes? Then the Changebike is more versatile - you can choose to change the pedals or not.

Agree on the front wheel and the waterbottle. Definitely a drawback having only 1 waterbottle.

The Montague also has a quick-release height adjustable front...stem? No, that's not right - but you can move the handlebars up and down with just a quick release. I don't think the ChangeBike has that.
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never seen a changebike in the US, but i do ride a montague paratrooper and am well pleased with the ride. thought i did eventually change out the fork for something a bit lighter
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Not sure what PaulRivers meant by the Montague having "a quick-release height adjustable front" that allows adjustment of the "handlebars up and down with just a quick release". I don't see any such QR for the handlebar.

I'm 5'9" and 76kg and have used my Montague for trail riding as well as on scout related camping trips so I can vouch for it's offroad abilities. It doesn't handle quite as well on some trails as my Litespeed but it is as competent as an average full-size mountain bike. The beauty of it is that it folds and stashes into the trunk of my MDX when I need the receiver for a hitch mounted cargo carrier instead of the bike rack. Can't stick a regular mountain bike in the trunk and expect to still have room for passengers in the second row!

Anyway, both will probably do just fine off road. I'd just suggest test-riding them if possible. The geometry of both frames look vastly different so the ride could be as well. I've not seen any ChangeBike dealers here in the northeastern US nor have I encountered any in the 7-8 bike tours that I do annually where I've seen some pretty fancy bikes. Good Luck!
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The Changebike has 2 according to some of the pictures submitted on their website.
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Not sure what PaulRivers meant by the Montague having "a quick-release height adjustable front" that allows adjustment of the "handlebars up and down with just a quick release". I don't see any such QR for the handlebar.
Adjusting The Montague Octagon Adjustable Handlebar Riser

It's on the most recent Montague Crosstown, my brother just bought one.
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According to the Montague website (see link previously provided above) the Paratrooper Pro does not come with the Octagon stem.
It comes with a fixed 105mm Kalloy stem with 7 degree rise.
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reminds me of this:




and this:
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According to the Montague website (see link previously provided above) the Paratrooper Pro does not come with the Octagon stem.
It comes with a fixed 105mm Kalloy stem with 7 degree rise.
My apologies - I know Montague bikes came with the Octagon stem, I had assumed that they all did, not just some models, but looking at the link it looks like you're correct - the Crosstown comes with one, but the Paratrooper Pro does not.
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reminds me of this:




and this:

Interesting...
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Interesting...
very..

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I wanted a full size folding bike that would be good off road.
throttle back to JRA..

I'd say because of the foldability flexing points, I'd consider it as a un paved Dirt Road bike,

but not something to ride like a real Mountain bike. modest pace ambitions are Prudent.
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The Change Bike looks awesome! I think I'm going to pre-order the folding mountain bike they have on their site to the UK. Should fit in the back of my astra much easier than my current cross country bike. Having to sling it up on the roof gets a bit tiring to be honest.
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