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Old 10-29-13, 09:49 AM   #1
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Dahon Mu Rohloff



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Dahon’s done an internally geared folding bike before, but this is their first that uses one with a Gates Belt Drive.

The premium model uses a top end Rohloff 14-speed hub with the Gates Center Track system. It also includes their VP-made quick release pedals that pop into the included saddle bag. Throw Magura MT6 hydraulic brakes with 160mm rotors front and rear and you’ve got the makings for one heck of a mini commuter. And a price tag that’ll unfold your wallet just as quick as their frames…

Complete spec is:

Weight — 12.1 kg (26.8 lbs)
Frame — Dalloy Sanus Aluminum tubeset with forged Lattice Hinged and V-Clamp technology
Fork — Lightweight Dalloy aluminum with integrated crown
Handlepost — Forged Alloy Radius Telescope with Fusion Technology, adjustable
Drivetrain — Rohloff SPEEDHUB 500/14, 14 gear Internal Hub Gear with Rohloff indexed Twist Shifter
Wheels — Large 451mm (22″) Aluminum Double Wall rims, Dahon sealed bearing disc brake hubs
Brakes — Magura MT6 Hydraulic Disc 160/160
Saddle — Dahon Ergo Comfort SL
Crank — Forged Alloy Crank Arms
Color — Agate

Dahon says it’s one of the quietest, smoothest running bikes around, folder or not. Retail is $5,500.
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Old 10-29-13, 10:10 AM   #2
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Retail is $5,500.
hahaha... that's a lot of kit to waste on that platform.
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Old 10-29-13, 10:41 AM   #3
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Dahon says it’s one of the quietest, smoothest running bikes around, folder or not. Retail is $5,500.
Best left for the heavy wallet brigade -- which I'm not a member .
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the elevated chainstay does make Belts work , without splitting up rear triangles

Bike Fridays New Silk does that single beam stay, also a disc brake -IGH rig,
[Alfine 11 if the German hub is too pricy]


(BTW my Rohloff Pocket Llama was less than half that much..
only about 25% over the cost of the Hub @ retail )

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Old 10-29-13, 11:08 AM   #5
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the elevated chainstay does make Belts work , without splitting up rear triangles

Bike Fridays New Silk does that single beam stay, also a disc brake -IGH rig,
[Alfine 11 if the German hub is too pricy]


(BTW my Rohloff Pocket Llama was less than half that much..
only about 25% over the cost of the Hub @ retail )
rohloff llama must be awesome..

have you test ridden the silk?
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Old 10-29-13, 11:11 AM   #6
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No, I'm about 350 miles away from Eugene..
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No, I'm about 350 miles away from Eugene..
i'm intrigued to try it, but i don't like the way it looks. am i shallow?
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Old 10-29-13, 12:27 PM   #8
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...that is a nice looking bike. I have a Dahon Mu N360 that I added a Gates Carbon drive to and it is very similar...minus the disc brakes. The carbon drive system does make for an oddly silent ride. I was not used to hearing the sound of ice cubes clanking around in my water bottle.

I just can't get over the price of this bike. $5,500?!?! Yikes.

I spent about $1,300 all-in on my Mu N360 and Gates Carbon Drive system.
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The Silk, like the Tikit, puts the BB in the rear portion.

and then ads a chain tension slider, clamp on the back end..

Tikit to use the Belt Splits the rear stay, Silk doesn't have to ..

My Pocket Llama like their other Travel bike has the hinge behind the BB
its part of the main frame Portion..

so My R'off PL has their chain tensioner on the rear derailleur hanger .

You may not worry so much about how it looks, if the Silk gets fitted with A rear Rack,
for your Panniers .. (or at least Mudguards).

Shallow to the company, may not matter if the credit card clears to pay for it.
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...that is a nice looking bike. I have a Dahon Mu N360 that I added a Gates Carbon drive to and it is very similar...minus the disc brakes. The carbon drive system does make for an oddly silent ride. I was not used to hearing the sound of ice cubes clanking around in my water bottle.

I just can't get over the price of this bike. $5,500?!?! Yikes.

I spent about $1,300 all-in on my Mu N360 and Gates Carbon Drive system.
Your bike sounds terrific ... how do you like the NuVinci in day to day use? .. do you have many hills to negotiate? Do you have any pictures of your bike to share? .. I'm running a belt on my Mu Uno (SRAM Automatix 2 speed conversion) and really enjoy riding in near silence...
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Your bike sounds terrific ... how do you like the NuVinci in day to day use? .. do you have many hills to negotiate? Do you have any pictures of your bike to share? .. I'm running a belt on my Mu Uno (SRAM Automatix 2 speed conversion) and really enjoy riding in near silence...
I don't have any photos yet. But I should get on top of that.

I really, really love the NuVinci for my riding. Not only does it add to the silence of the bike with belt drive but I can quickly dial-in a comfortable resistance when I am going uphill. I also like the simple freedom of changing resistance without pedaling. As the terrain changes, I gently adjust the grip-shifter to get a comfortable resistance in my pedaling.

My GPS tells me that my elevation changes +/- 125ft in a 17 mile weekend ride. I don't consider my area very hilly.

The NuVinci does add several pounds in weight, but I enjoy it so much I wish I could have one on all of my bikes.
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Are you running the Gates 60/24 center-track system, or something else? Yup, get on top of those pics.. :-)
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That's impressive. My Nexus-hubbed, V brake FlyBy weighed about 2/3lbs more than that.
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Old 10-31-13, 10:04 AM   #14
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Boy, that's an expensive way to get to a multi-speed folder. I think Rohloffs and belts are cool, but I can't get my head around spending all that money when derailers and a chain bring you a cheaper, lighter bicycle that's much easier to fix a flat tire on.
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I'm running a belt on my Mu Uno (SRAM Automatix 2 speed conversion) and really enjoy riding in near silence...
Hmm, what a neat upgrade, I like the idea of putting a belt drive on a Craig's List Mu. Has the belt presented any problems or challenges? Is your riding mostly in city?
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Hmm, what a neat upgrade, I like the idea of putting a belt drive on a Craig's List Mu. Has the belt presented any problems or challenges? Is your riding mostly in city?
No problems with my belt drive setup .. I run two bikes with belts, the Mu and a Moulton TSR-2 (converted to SRAM P5 5 speed) .. neither give me any belt related issues.. both use the older 8mm pitch belts and cogs with a snubber ... the newer Gates 11mm pitch belts and cogs (centertrack) are what you see on most new OEM belt drive bikes.. the only issue there for small wheel bikes running a SRAM Automatix is cog selection.. 60/24 is about it unless you can find a 22 in Europe .. with a 60/24 that gives you around 46/63 g/i .. I'm running an 80/28 on the Mu and an 80/25 on the TSR-5 .. I ride the Mu mostly in the city and use it for my 10 mile lunch run loops .. the TSR-5 goes most anywhere, especially when I expect to be in the saddle for longer distances ..



Just went on the Gates site .. lo and behold they are now listing a 70t 130 BCD and a 22t Nexus compatible .. so that opens up the gear selections available for the Automatix.. next trick will be to find a belt length that will work..

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Bruce, what a beautiful mod.

I'll keep my eyes open for an on sale Mu. My wife is using a durable Downtube and she would appreciate the upgrade. Thanks!
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Belt snubber is an ok fix.
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