if you had to have only one bike and it was a folder which would you choose
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If I could only have one bike it would be my Dahon Speed TR 24 to bad Dahon no longer has it in their line-up. :-(
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Saw a 20"wheel one on Copenhagen Pederson site . apparently it was the only one.
BB shell and chainstays were 1 piece, all the others were able to be un bolted.
so It could be boxed up smaller.
BB shell and chainstays were 1 piece, all the others were able to be un bolted.
so It could be boxed up smaller.
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It was yellow the 6 tubes coming off the BB shell were not brazed on directly ,
like they are on that Black one.
was Jesper Sølling built.. since then he quit making any. shut down His website ,
and so the pictures may not be available .
like they are on that Black one.
was Jesper Sølling built.. since then he quit making any. shut down His website ,
and so the pictures may not be available .
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I'd like an IFmove. Even better if it came with an 8sp or higher IGH & suspension fork....
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Here's my suggestion, already implemented by me:
Brommie S2 as base commuting beast. Add front wheel SP dyno hub plus light from this guy rayran on ebay. If I find a link I will post this.
Get back wheel with 5-sp SA with freewheel to take the 2-sp cogs of the brommie. This converts the Brommie to wide range 10 speed.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BRAND-NEW...b028126&_uhb=1
I didn't buy from him but a chap called rayran, I think. In TW. I got a back wheel and matching front wheel with SP dyno. Very light, very efficient, very compact.
So I run the 2-sp for commuting, and the 10-sp for touring. The dyno front wheel just stays put. I unplug the light during summer to get a slight speed improvement.
[edit] Seller was 54rayran. I communicated with him directly as he didn't have exactly what I wanted on ebay.
Brommie S2 as base commuting beast. Add front wheel SP dyno hub plus light from this guy rayran on ebay. If I find a link I will post this.
Get back wheel with 5-sp SA with freewheel to take the 2-sp cogs of the brommie. This converts the Brommie to wide range 10 speed.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BRAND-NEW...b028126&_uhb=1
I didn't buy from him but a chap called rayran, I think. In TW. I got a back wheel and matching front wheel with SP dyno. Very light, very efficient, very compact.
So I run the 2-sp for commuting, and the 10-sp for touring. The dyno front wheel just stays put. I unplug the light during summer to get a slight speed improvement.
[edit] Seller was 54rayran. I communicated with him directly as he didn't have exactly what I wanted on ebay.
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I've become quite interested in a Bike Friday Silk with an 11-speed hub, fenders and racks. I think I'd be comfortable both commuting and touring on one of those. But, I haven't seen one in person yet, so I don't have a good sense for the weight, fold time, or folded size.
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I was thinking about putting together a 10 speed setup recently, jur. I think you're the first person here to do it... do you know if the hub driver is the standard S-RF5(N) one or taken from the BWR? Any teething problems?
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I had zero problems, it is literally a drop-in. The only niggle I had was finding a nice orientation for the 5sp thumb switcher. The default makes it stick waaaay out. I ended up filing some metal away so I could fit it 180deg round, so it ends up hanging down from below the handlebars. Right now I don't have any pics to show because I have put the 2-sp wheel back in for commuting duty.
The spacing of the gears made choice of cogs slightly difficult, I think I ended up 14-16T.
Another small niggle, I have 2 Brommies, the 2nd one an older version, the new style anti-rotation washers did not fit the older frame.
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Actually I have some vague pics...
This pic shows the shifter still on top. If it was horizontal it interfered with the fold. Ignore the photo-bombing one-legged guy riding past.
This pic shows it hanging down from below after I made the internal mod to the shifter. It was much easier to reach over there, I can shift without taking hand off bar. I still had to trim the cables better. Here I am demo'ing the fold to a local in South Africa. Notice my lightning quick hand movements, heh heh.
This pic shows the shifter still on top. If it was horizontal it interfered with the fold. Ignore the photo-bombing one-legged guy riding past.
This pic shows it hanging down from below after I made the internal mod to the shifter. It was much easier to reach over there, I can shift without taking hand off bar. I still had to trim the cables better. Here I am demo'ing the fold to a local in South Africa. Notice my lightning quick hand movements, heh heh.
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A single bike, that folds?
Think I'll go for the Toxy Flite. With the seat removed, it's not really any bigger than a Dahon, and the first stage fold is pretty quick (fold down the handlebar, then the frame, seat can stay where it is, and for the most compact fold, the boom can be collapsed and the seat removed), and it looks pretty comfortable. RWD, so the chain is a consideration, but in this video, the frame looks to fold nicely even with the chain being there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hThgXl5xLCM#t=10m35s
I'll take mine with a Sturmey X-FDD or XL-FDD up front (certainly not one of the Shimano rollerbrake dynamo hubs, because screw the "power modulator"), and a Sturmey X-RD8(W) in back, I think. Discs would do too, so in that case I'd probably go for a Shutter Precision PD-8 hub up front, and either Sturmey X-RK8(W), Alfine 11, or Rohloff in back.
Think I'll go for the Toxy Flite. With the seat removed, it's not really any bigger than a Dahon, and the first stage fold is pretty quick (fold down the handlebar, then the frame, seat can stay where it is, and for the most compact fold, the boom can be collapsed and the seat removed), and it looks pretty comfortable. RWD, so the chain is a consideration, but in this video, the frame looks to fold nicely even with the chain being there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hThgXl5xLCM#t=10m35s
I'll take mine with a Sturmey X-FDD or XL-FDD up front (certainly not one of the Shimano rollerbrake dynamo hubs, because screw the "power modulator"), and a Sturmey X-RD8(W) in back, I think. Discs would do too, so in that case I'd probably go for a Shutter Precision PD-8 hub up front, and either Sturmey X-RK8(W), Alfine 11, or Rohloff in back.
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I have a swift and a paratrooper. In many respects the swift is the better bike. I have toured on the Xootr many times and it is a strong, well built bike that handles well and the fold suits me fine. From the box it was great. The only changes I have made being bar-ends, saddle, rear rack and when the tyres wore out marathon plus (bye bye punctures).
However, the paratrooper has undergone many changes. I like it because it can be used for so many projects. I have toured with 24 inch mountain bike tyres, once I had the front end of my SE Lager (700c) on the front and mtb on the back. It's next mission is to become a single speed 700c or 26 inch slick road bike for some touring I have planned next year.
I like my swift and I feel bad for not voting for it but, for me, the paratrooper just pips it.
Rob
However, the paratrooper has undergone many changes. I like it because it can be used for so many projects. I have toured with 24 inch mountain bike tyres, once I had the front end of my SE Lager (700c) on the front and mtb on the back. It's next mission is to become a single speed 700c or 26 inch slick road bike for some touring I have planned next year.
I like my swift and I feel bad for not voting for it but, for me, the paratrooper just pips it.
Rob
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I hope to get a chance to see them side-by-side before making a purchase.
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First off, one bike? Not bloody 'effing possible. Right now, I'm just trying to get myself DOWN to twelve derailleur road bikes, two commuters, and three 3-speed IGH roadsters.
Going back to the question: If we're talking one folder, and one bike, I'd have to stick with my Montague:
I've ridden a number of small (20" and smaller -yeah, my definition of 'small wheel' is a lot different from the group's in general) wheel folders, and while I find them great for short hops, I still prefer something with real adult-sized wheels. Folding down into the bag works for me, and it's perfect for the days when I have to drop the car off for service and do the 4-8 mile ride to work and back. It's also decent for those Sundays when I don't feel like getting into Lance-wannabe kit and take one of the road screamers out, but still want something a bit lighter and more responsive than my Raleigh Tourist.
The Montague seems to be one of those bikes that doesn't do anything excellently, but does everything pretty-damned-good. Going back to that (hypothetical, hopefully) one-bike question, if I HAD to dump everything but one bike, this is the one I'd probably keep. I could still do Sunday rides with my bunch, do job-related commuting (I kept it at work for awhile until I realized that there were a lot of times I needed it when the shop was closed), and it's excellent at errand running. About the only weakness in my world is that adding mudguards would inversely effect the folding, and since I do ride in bad weather a lot more than seldom, I really prefer mudguards on a full-time work bike.
Going back to the question: If we're talking one folder, and one bike, I'd have to stick with my Montague:
I've ridden a number of small (20" and smaller -yeah, my definition of 'small wheel' is a lot different from the group's in general) wheel folders, and while I find them great for short hops, I still prefer something with real adult-sized wheels. Folding down into the bag works for me, and it's perfect for the days when I have to drop the car off for service and do the 4-8 mile ride to work and back. It's also decent for those Sundays when I don't feel like getting into Lance-wannabe kit and take one of the road screamers out, but still want something a bit lighter and more responsive than my Raleigh Tourist.
The Montague seems to be one of those bikes that doesn't do anything excellently, but does everything pretty-damned-good. Going back to that (hypothetical, hopefully) one-bike question, if I HAD to dump everything but one bike, this is the one I'd probably keep. I could still do Sunday rides with my bunch, do job-related commuting (I kept it at work for awhile until I realized that there were a lot of times I needed it when the shop was closed), and it's excellent at errand running. About the only weakness in my world is that adding mudguards would inversely effect the folding, and since I do ride in bad weather a lot more than seldom, I really prefer mudguards on a full-time work bike.
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