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    Raleigh Stowaway 7 Current Model UK and Europe

    Digging around for info on the Raleigh Avenir in Canada, I happened across a bit of info on the similar Stowaway 7 model that pops up in the UK, Australia and in Europe. Two reviews come from Poland where translation is needed.

    http://www.raleigh.co.uk/ProductType...pt=15&pg=10401

    http://www.mailorderbikes.com/m1b0s1...towaway_7_2014

    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/...28486#features

    http://reviews.halfords.com/4028/320421/reviews.htm

    Here's the Raleigh Poland webpage: http://www.raleigh.pl/rower/122 (click on your translate option)

    http://wrower.pl/sprzet/test-raleigh...ay-7,5790.html (ditto!)

    http://mtbikes.pl/artykuly/raleigh-s...r-kieszonkowy/ (ditto!)

    The Polish reviews feature some very good photos of the bike, especially the details of folding/unfolding and the various parts.
    Last edited by AvenirFolder; 11-21-13 at 01:40 PM.

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    Love it. It does resemble a Dahon though doesn't it, but having that Raleigh logo on the bike sells me. I have fond memories of Raleigh during the days when they were actually made in England.

    By the way, are they available in the US?
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    From the OP's other thread, sounds like the Raleigh folders are rebranded Dahons.

    I like how it's just "alloy", though. Dahon at least admits when they're using gas pipe... (Nothing wrong with gas pipe, mind you, my Dahon is built out of the stuff and got me to work this morning.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Pedaling View Post
    Love it. It does resemble a Dahon though doesn't it, but having that Raleigh logo on the bike sells me. I have fond memories of Raleigh during the days when they were actually made in England.

    By the way, are they available in the US?
    You could try our friend Hank from this forum:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Pedaling View Post
    I have fond memories of Raleigh during the days when they were actually made in England.
    Me too, especially as I have lived in Nottingham all my life and my grandfather worked at Raleigh. The old factory site was flattened some years ago when the university of Nottingham extended its campus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Pedaling View Post
    ... By the way, are they available in the US?
    Raleigh USA has had a folder in their line the last few years, but does not currently have one listed for 2014. See:
    http://archive.raleighusa.com/archiv...folding-i8-13/
    The Folding i8 has an 8-speed Nexus hub and can be adjusted to a very upright riding position. IMHO, it is very comfortable to ride, but does not fold quite as nicely as similar Dahons and Terns. FWIW, despite what you might read elsewhere, it is not a rebadged Dahon model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpg View Post
    Me too, especially as I have lived in Nottingham all my life and my grandfather worked at Raleigh. The old factory site was flattened some years ago when the university of Nottingham extended its campus.
    I watched a video a few weeks ago showing the hay day of England -- Nottingham to be exact when the place was buzzing with bicycle manufacturing. Its a real shame what has happened. I believe that Brooks is about the only manufacturer that survived.

    I wish I still had that Raleigh racer that I had when I was a kid -- Made in England label on the down tube. Al's not lost though -- I have a Made in England label again -- on my Brommie .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Pedaling View Post
    Love it.

    By the way, are they available in the US?
    USA? Nope. There is virtually nothing in the way of Raleigh folders in the U.S. now -- at least according to the Raleigh USA website -- although the Folding i8, a great bike, was available a year or two ago. According to jmm, his Folding i8 is prone to wheelies and if I'm getting the Polish translation right, the Stowaway has the same attribute.

    In Poland, the Stowaway 7 is made for "the average Kowalski"!

    The earliest Avenir was a rebranded Dahon Impulse D6 but I don't see anything in the current Dahon line that matches the new Avenir or the Stowaway. Raleigh UK distributes the Dahon models in the UK but I have a feeling that the two makes are completely different.

    If you enlarge the photo of the 2011 Stowaway UK model (Evans Cycle link above) and compare the hinge levers of that model and the current UK model with that of the Polish version, you'll notice they're different. So even under the same name, the bikes might have little variances like that. Also note that the Polish bike is lighter coloured like the 2011 Stowaway, not black like the 2014 UK model.
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    I also find it strange that the seatpost for the Stowaway is steel because even my entry level Avenirs have alloy posts (even if they are too short).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpg View Post
    Me too, especially as I have lived in Nottingham all my life and my grandfather worked at Raleigh. The old factory site was flattened some years ago when the university of Nottingham extended its campus.
    I also have memories of the factory. I did some temp work there on three occasions. It was never a positive experience. Once all the agency workers were laid off as the permanent staff treated a work out. This was because the agency were getting about 10p more per hour.

    I also remember the company not backing bmx until very late after saying it was just a craze, then making dangerous bikes. They really just made a quick buck. There approach to touring and road racing is legendary.
    I was able to test ride the Raleigh burner before they were released. I had it for a week, and the stickers were all masked over, as it was to be kept secret. I was chosen to try the bike out as an early bmx rider in uk.
    All the people was borrowed the bikes handed them back in bits. They still bit them in to production. My neighbour, who worked for Raleigh, didn't think my mongoose was any good. When they released the bike he commented how good they were!!

    People who work in bike factories don't always know anything about them!

    I also had great Raleigh 653 frames. So good for the money.

    It's a shame the factories gone. We used th call the area the Raleigh round about. I believe even the bus timetables used this unofficial location name back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Pedaling View Post
    I wish I still had that Raleigh racer that I had when I was a kid -- Made in England label on the down tube. Al's not lost though -- I have a Made in England label again -- on my Brommie .
    Well, I kept my English racer that I bought with newspaper sales money ... Here's my STORY and I'm sticking to it... it's been relegated to coffee shop runs, but still works great!



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    Quote Originally Posted by bhtooefr View Post
    I like how it's just "alloy", though. Dahon at least admits when they're using gas pipe.
    'Alloy', i.e. 'light alloy', in traditional European cycling means aluminum, and in this case, the 'pipes' are hydroformed. But it's always - always! - fun to bash Dahon, even when it's done in ignorance.
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    A couple of anomolies that I noticed on the Stowaway 7s: the exposed wires under the main frame arch (not continuous covered cables) and the bolted-on bottom support frame in Poland (not welded on as is the norm and evident on my Raleigh Avenirs). Anyone else pick those up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcs View Post
    'Alloy', i.e. 'light alloy', in traditional European cycling means aluminum, and in this case, the 'pipes' are hydroformed. But it's always - always! - fun to bash Dahon, even when it's done in ignorance.
    Ah. Fair enough. I guess I'm just used to marketing terms being used that don't actually mean anything. And even 1018 is an alloy, no?

    And, I wasn't bashing Dahon, I was bashing Raleigh, anyway. Hell, I ride a gas pipe Dahon (thing even has a sticker saying it's hi-ten) and like it.
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