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Winfried 02-03-14 03:26 PM

[Verge] X10 vs. P20?
 
Hello

I'd like to buy a new folder to go for a few trips that involve a lot of hill climbing.

The X10 is 3kg lighter but only has a single chainring, while the P20 is heavier but has two chainrings.

What do you think I should get?

Thank you.

smallwheeler 02-03-14 04:50 PM

3kg heavier? that must be a very special chainring.

http://bikecult.com/works/chainring/chrgkitching.jpg

Winfried 02-04-14 04:27 AM

I guess the weight difference comes from the wheels and possibly the frame.

Besides the weight and the chainring, the price also differs.

Hence the thread.

cplager 02-04-14 07:58 AM

According to NYCe, the weight different is 3 lbs, not 3 Kg (6.6 lbs) - 11 Kg vs 9.7 Kg.

3 lbs won't make a big difference riding (remember, you're going to be on the bike); it will make a difference when carrying the bike. More expensive components may make the more expensive bike nicer to ride (but for the most part, the cheaper Tern seems reasonable enough).

If it were me, I'd do the 20 speed and save $500. :D

Winfried 02-04-14 10:12 AM

Thanks for the input.

pampera 02-05-14 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winfried (Post 16466762)
Thanks for the input.

Think cost estimations of upgrading after purchase. Maybe you need those gears.

Winfried 02-10-14 05:42 AM

Or I could go for the X20, which also has two chainrings + 10 speeds like the P20, for 2.5 the mon€y :-)

Winfried 02-10-14 08:12 AM

If someone's riding an X10, could you explain what this means?

Quote:

But when you fold it, you will need a hex wrench to free its handlebar. Unlike the conventional handlebar latch, this one keeps in firmly in place and yields a really solid ride.Most high-end Terns would feature a VRO synthace handlebar, but this impedes folding if you require a compact and fast action on the go. It's a little price to pay for performance, but when you are used to it, its not a hassle.
(source)

Here's the (un)folding instructions from Tern (see picture 6).

Does it mean that the X? series requires using an hex wrench every time we need to fold/unfold the bike, or is it just to adjust the handlebar while riding?

Thank you.

dynaryder 02-10-14 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winfried (Post 16482919)
Does it mean that the X? series requires using an hex wrench every time we need to fold/unfold the bike, or is it just to adjust the handlebar while riding?

The hex is required to reposition the handlebar. Whether or not you'll need to do this every time you un/fold the bike will prolly be determined by where the handlebars are.

Winfried 02-11-14 07:56 AM

Thanks for the clarification.

Shaunbee 02-18-14 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pampera (Post 16470724)
Think cost estimations of upgrading after purchase. Maybe you need those gears.

Cost was a factor when I bought the Tern C7 but when it was time to upgrade, I would have been better off buying the P9. The C7 provided no means of upgrading unless I was willing to replace the wheelsets, get new cassette/RD and shifters. In the end I sold the bike and bought another. Make no mistake, the C7 is a decent bike and that's about it, decent. So if there's any plans to upgrade in the future, please factor in the cost for this. It'll save you a lot of heartaches, not to mention pocket aches.


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