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    Montague paratrooper vs regular mountain bikes

    http://www.montaguebikes.com/paratro...tary-bike.html

    Im looking for advice about this guys. Ive got into trails the last couple months and now im looking to purchase a mountain bike for myself instead of renting. Ive been renting hardtrail bikes everytime I go and its got to the point Im enjoying it and should invest in one.

    I came across the Montague Paratrooper bike on a search and read through every topic on the bike in the foldable bike forum and looking through the many review sites and im hard pressed to find many negatives except for the price. Okay so price is a big negative but i can get it for $500 and there would always be the option to upgrade the standard parts. I asked the guys at the place I rent my bike and they said they had never tried it but it seemed good in theory.


    How does this compare to non foldable regular mountain bikes? there isnt a wealth of solid opinions on the comparisons. Ive read a few saying its a big no and it doesnt compare to a regular mountain bike, but theyve seemed biased and given no real info for that opionion.

    My thought process is I cant be doing with the hassle of bike racks on my car, booking advanced tickets on trains and running the risk of it getting stolen at bike racks. I also like the idea id storing it away in my flat which make the extra 200 bucks worth it compared to a regular mountain bike.

    So how does it compare?
    Also is there any differences between montague frames? Im tempted to just get frame and build to spec
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMartinLaine View Post
    ... looking to purchase a mountain bike for myself ... I came across the Montague Paratrooper ... hard pressed to find many negatives ...
    Where are you located? If there is a Montague dealer in your area, I strongly recommed you visit them. If there is no Montague dealer in your area, is there a local bike shop that will service the bike for you?

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    lately I've been looking on aliexpress. There are a ton of the old hummer bikes on there for really cheap. I'm talking like $150 delivered from China to USA, a complete bike. That, or I'm thinking of getting a frame for $120 (Since I am planning on replacing most of the components anyways).

    Compared to a regular hardtail alu frame from nashbar...

    https://www.nashbar.com/reviews/nash...ike-Frame.html

    which is 3.6lbs about,

    The montague folder is about 5.5 lbs

    So 2lbs for folding.

    I've spent a bit of time looking at these bikes, and yeah IMO the montague design might be the best for folders because it doesn't actually break up the main parts of the bike, only rotates them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMartinLaine View Post
    Im looking for advice about this guys. Ive got into trails the last couple months and now im looking to purchase a mountain bike for myself instead of renting. Ive been renting hardtrail bikes everytime I go and its got to the point Im enjoying it and should invest in one.
    There are alternatives to the Montague:

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    Quote Originally Posted by adlai View Post
    lately I've been looking on aliexpress. There are a ton of the old hummer bikes on there for really cheap. I'm talking like $150 delivered from China to USA, a complete bike. That, or I'm thinking of getting a frame for $120 (Since I am planning on replacing most of the components anyways).

    Compared to a regular hardtail alu frame from nashbar...

    https://www.nashbar.com/reviews/nash...ike-Frame.html

    which is 3.6lbs about,

    The montague folder is about 5.5 lbs

    So 2lbs for folding.

    I've spent a bit of time looking at these bikes, and yeah IMO the montague design might be the best for folders because it doesn't actually break up the main parts of the bike, only rotates them.
    aliexpress sell fakes. They are likely not made in the same way and structural stability could be jeopadised.

    what are the differences apart from folding aspect between montague paratrooper and regular mountain bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMartinLaine View Post
    aliexpress sell fakes. They are likely not made in the same way and structural stability could be jeopadised.

    what are the differences apart from folding aspect between montague paratrooper and regular mountain bikes?
    I doubt it in this case.

    If you look closely...they are all hummer branded. Meaning that they're likely production overruns from the hummer bikes in the early 2000's.

    If they were fakes, there would be more of the current montague line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adlai View Post
    I doubt it in this case.

    If you look closely...they are all hummer branded. Meaning that they're likely production overruns from the hummer bikes in the early 2000's.

    If they were fakes, there would be more of the current montague line.
    Old fakes?? (Dunno)
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    I had one a few years ago. It rode fine but not as nice as non-folding bike of the same price range. It sounds like you could use the folding feature a fair amount which would make this bike nice. It will not ever ride as nice as most non-folding bikes of the same price range.

    I would not recommend buying a frame and building it up, unless you have parts already on hand. Most times building up a frame will cost alot more than buying a complete bike. I also would not recommed putting alot of money into upgrading parts as I don't think you will gain much of a ride improvement on that frame.

    It is a pretty nice riding folding bike for the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinTI View Post
    I had one a few years ago. It rode fine but not as nice as non-folding bike of the same price range. It sounds like you could use the folding feature a fair amount which would make this bike nice. It will not ever ride as nice as most non-folding bikes of the same price range.

    I would not recommend buying a frame and building it up, unless you have parts already on hand. Most times building up a frame will cost alot more than buying a complete bike. I also would not recommed putting alot of money into upgrading parts as I don't think you will gain much of a ride improvement on that frame.

    It is a pretty nice riding folding bike for the money.
    Can you elaborate on why the ride was not as nice please?

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    How hard are you intending to ride this , single track fast , or JRA on the street, casual ?

    only want it because you dont like the idea of smaller wheels ?

    someone posted a broken Montague frame picture last year . failure was at where it folds.

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    Comparing the ride of the Montague vs something like a Specialized Hardrock Sport ( which I think is about the same price range) The Montague was quite abit heavier. I would not be surprized if the Montague weighs more than the 29lbs that they say it is. The bike was not as responsive and felt top heavy. If you plan on doing alot of off roading the Montague did not seem to track as well (which could have been the tires). It did not seem to be a great hill climbing bike also.

    I sold it because the folding feature was not used as much, and I was willing to take the time to take off the wheels on a non-folding bike which rides nicer and has better performance) for putting it into a car (which I do now).

    If I was using the folding feature alot, I might have kept it. If you are planning to ride mostly streets, I think I would choose a folder with smaller wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinTI View Post
    Comparing the ride of the Montague vs something like a Specialized Hardrock Sport ( which I think is about the same price range) The Montague was quite abit heavier. I would not be surprized if the Montague weighs more than the 29lbs that they say it is. The bike was not as responsive and felt top heavy. If you plan on doing alot of off roading the Montague did not seem to track as well (which could have been the tires). It did not seem to be a great hill climbing bike also.

    I sold it because the folding feature was not used as much, and I was willing to take the time to take off the wheels on a non-folding bike which rides nicer and has better performance) for putting it into a car (which I do now).

    If I was using the folding feature alot, I might have kept it. If you are planning to ride mostly streets, I think I would choose a folder with smaller wheels.
    ive read its 32lbs and not the 29, so your right i think. Not a massive difference, but weight is big on trails.

    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    How hard are you intending to ride this , single track fast , or JRA on the street, casual ?

    only want it because you dont like the idea of smaller wheels ?

    someone posted a broken Montague frame picture last year . failure was at where it folds.
    Im intending to ride it hard and once a week on trails. Maybe a few long weekends camping.
    Is the bike length different to regular non folding mountain bikes?

    whats the difference between montague x50 and paratrooper?

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    Montague paratrooper vs regular mountain bikes

    Im intending to ride it hard and once a week on trails
    I wouldnt .. consider a Hardtail MTB .. instead.

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    [QUOTE=


    Im intending to ride it hard and once a week on trails. Maybe a few long weekends camping.
    Is the bike length different to regular non folding mountain bikes?

    whats the difference between montague x50 and paratrooper?[/QUOTE]

    I think if I were getting a mountain bike to be ridden off-road hard the Montague would not be it (unless the folding feature was really that important). If you plan to ride hard off-road with others I think you might get disappointed in a short amount of time. I guess you have to decide whether the folding feature or performance is more important. I can tell you that I have had Mountain bikes that cost around $500.00 that are not folding and the performance was much better than the Montague

    I don't know the answers to the last two questions, sorry.

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    I have the paratrooper and for my purposes it is a great bike. I commute with it everyday on the train. It has held up to Brooklyn streets under a 300 pound rider and rides just fine. I don't do much off road so I can't comment on that.

    I did change out the forks, the seat, and adjustable rise stem. I don't recommend the stem but that was my fault.


    Like was said, if folding is important the paratrooper is a wonderful bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindyfd View Post
    I have the paratrooper and for my purposes it is a great bike. I commute with it everyday on the train. It has held up to Brooklyn streets under a 300 pound rider and rides just fine. I don't do much off road so I can't comment on that.

    I did change out the forks, the seat, and adjustable rise stem. I don't recommend the stem but that was my fault.


    Like was said, if folding is important the paratrooper is a wonderful bike.
    I'm considering it because it looks like it might be airline kosher. I'd use the folding infrequently, basically for putting into cars and into luggage...

    But have you tried flying with it?

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    I haven't flown with it but I'm pretty sure it's not carry-on size when folded. If that was what you were looking for. It would have to be a sizable suitcase to fit the bike in, they sell a soft bag for it but I wouldn't trust the baggage handlers not to damage the bike (worked for TWA back in the day loading the planes).

    Here's a pic of it folded to get an idea. The seat post will go down more and just FYI the front wheel is removed to fold.


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    Quote Originally Posted by adlai View Post
    I'm considering it because it looks like it might be airline kosher.


    wow. i didn't know that.

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    I like the Fit and the Navigator.

    But as this bike would also be used to travel, I need a rack to hold a bag with about 10kg/20lbs of stuff.

    Does someone know if a third-party offers a porteur or a rear-rack that is either compact enough to remain installed when folding or can be easily removed when folding?

    Thank you.

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    I have an older Montague (ca 2002 MX). It's a decent bike. I bought it (used) to fold and take in my trunk for riding around trails and such. The folding is a nice feature but it is a bit of a pain to fold and unfold so I don't really do that so much. I recently bought a Dahon Formula 18 which I use much more and enjoy riding a lot more (it is a 20 inch folder). It basically lives in my trunk and I don;t have to think much about it (I take it out at lunch time to ride if the mood strikes). It folds effortlessly which is more than I can say for the Montague (removing and replacing the tire is a hassle and it is cumbersome to carry the frame and tire although the newer models seem to have a built in strap to secure the package which my older model lacks.)

    If I had the ability to rewind the tape, I would have not gotten the Montague but would have opted for a regular 26 inch non-folder and still gotten the Dahon. The Dahon isn't really a mountain bike but I take it on fairly smooth dirt trails and it is a blast to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindyfd View Post
    I haven't flown with it but I'm pretty sure it's not carry-on size when folded. If that was what you were looking for. It would have to be a sizable suitcase to fit the bike in, they sell a soft bag for it but I wouldn't trust the baggage handlers not to damage the bike (worked for TWA back in the day loading the planes).

    Here's a pic of it folded to get an idea. The seat post will go down more and just FYI the front wheel is removed to fold.

    NB; the disc is vulnerable to being bent, in transit, but, the use of a centerlock hub makes disc removal ,
    and reinstallation when rebuild cones, a simpler task, and the disc can be packed separately to not be so exposed.

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