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    Pros & cons of tires for 16" folders?

    Sorry, I have no info. My Flamingo 7NX came with...

    Shining brand (Taiwan) AR-DM18 6061-T6. There is some unreadable info on the rubber.

    I presume that choices are compromises, and there is no such thing as...

    1. durable: puncture resistant or for a premium premium price filled with Martian neon gas mixed with whale blubber so impervious.
    2. light: my dream
    3. foldable: my dream
    4. cheap: under USD 25
    5. Obiquitous: Available at most any bike store, from Bali to Vancouver Island
    6. Versatile: work well on any kind of road surface and weather

    Did I mention that I am looking to find all these features st once? Ha ha.

    BTW, would it be fair to say that tire and tube technology have not kept pace with frame and brake design?
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    I'm being obtuse... what exactly are you seeking advice wise? Are you looking for recommendations for other 16" branded tires?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozonation View Post
    I'm being obtuse... what exactly are you seeking advice wise? Are you looking for recommendations for other 16" branded tires?
    I am being obese.

    Yes, recommendations such as...

    For rough roads model A, brand X from Japan
    For foldability model b, brand Y from USA
    For value model c, brand Z from China

    Etc

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    Does the Flamingo have 349 wheels like Bromptons or 305's like Dahons?

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    406 , 20" is better in the 'Obiquitous' , niche .. since you asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    406
    Really? There's not much information out there but what there is suggests 349.

    Anyway, I know Jur disagrees, but I am still of the opinion that the Greenspeed Scorcher TR is definitely the best 349 tire, certainly a contender for 406 tire. It's a wide and comfortable, very fast, grippy slick. Its primary issue is it wears out relatively fast.
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    just kids BMX Bikes make the 406 ones widely available in most stores and shops .


    305 stocked 2nd most common.. Kids bikes again, _ & 349 tends to be special order unless you look in the Sellers of Bromptons .

    as they are uncommon in the general bike market .
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    349: Marathons (not plus) for most activities. Long life, puncture resistance and not a complete b*st*rd to fit.
    Kojak folding when I want to pack a spare tyre when travelling to a location that may not have them readily available.
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    After trying a few tires, I stick with Schwalbe Kojaks. They are more than $25 (here in Tokyo), but I usually get more than a year of daily riding out of them. I got only one puncture on my last set, which isn't bad when I was used to getting a puncture at least once a month on my road bike.

    I keep the Kojaks pumped up to 100-110 psi, rolling resistance is low, and they have surprising grip for slick tires, no sliding around in the rain. They are light, foldable, and here in Japan, they are available at most bike shops. Elsewhere it might be a good idea to buy a couple sets.

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    This seems to be the most recent thread on 16" 305 or 349 wheels, I can find. It seems like since 2009, the greenspeed scorchers have disappeared further from the market. Is the reason they're hard to find? A reason not to buy them? Are they a good in between of kojaks and marathons? Is www.hostelshoppe.com, really my only resource, if I don't want schwalbe marathons or kojaks? Or even though I haven't done the paid appointment first time and am not buying a recumbent, I might be able to do mail order with Zach Kaplan? He doesn't have a link to the scorchers on hit site, though.
    Will Greenspeed Scorchers TR with kevlar be more comfortable, faster and similar puncture resistance to the stock Maxxis with kevlar? Should I expect them to last shorter?
    As I have a Mezzo, that means 349 and rules out big apples. I think kojacks don't fit my current needs, between the BART station glass, the road in dire need of paving and some unpaved MUP of interest. I feel like I should try that 6-12 months from now, when I'm ready, aside from nabbing a couple folding, for flat kit. I know the scorchers aren't unpaved trail tires, either. Are my stocks and marathons more recommended for that? US dealers seem to be dwindling and they weren't plentiful 5 years ago.

    I don't see an advantage of replacing my stock Maxxis with kevlar with Marathons, until they have worn out. I am curious how Marathon H420 compare to the plus?

    Also found:16" (349) Tire Options and Suggestions

    Another which tire to buy thread (16 inch - 349)

    Greenspeed Scorcher tires kevlar vs non-kevlar comfort?

    I've read the older 2010 & more.

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    I'm going to assume that since the Flamingo is a
    Brompton copy that it also uses the same size tire, 349.

    1. Schwalbe Marathon Plus. with Marathon next.
    2. Fantome Mini by Velotto(hard to find) followed by Schwalbe Kojak.
    3. Same as no 2.
    4. I don't know any 349 tire under US$25. The closest I got is a
    Primo Comet that Piermontbikes charged me US$30.
    5. Tires made by Schwalbe will be the easiest to find.
    6. See no 1.

    No, you will not find all of the features you want in a single tire.
    You have to decide which features matter to you most. For me
    that's the schwalbe Kojaks. Folding, rolls fast and light:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNuu...IoDLA&index=17

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    I suspect that for a cheap performance tire, Primo Comets will perform better than Kojak in 16x349. I have not tried Kojak in that size.

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