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    CRIUS folding bike

    Hi,

    I am a newbie in folding bike, and considering to purchase one.
    Usage would be for occasional weekends / weekdays night to ride around the city area. Perhaps for work too in future (about 15K one way).
    I was considering Tern coz it is stylish and reasonably priced, until I came across this new brand (supposedly) called CRIUS.
    I believe someone somewhere mentioned about CRIUS before, however I would like to seek in-depth understanding of this brand.
    Comparing to Tern and the like, it is even better priced. Nonetheless, there is little known yet about its quality & performance. I've tried to visit their website CRIUS but it's all in Chinese characters.

    Does anyone here have hands-on experience with CRIUS or can share with me if this brand is reliable for my usage?


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    quick google showed china, and that brings up red flags for me.

    Occasional use buy a dahon or tern, within your budget.

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    All the bikes on the CRIUS website look like copies of Dahon bikes.

    I'd stick to Dahon or Tern in your situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ziqpy View Post
    quick google showed china, and that brings up red flags for me.

    Occasional use buy a dahon or tern, within your budget.

    Thanks ziqpy. It's rather bewildering that China brand is largely not recommended, when some major parts of branded folding bike (e.g. tube?) are made in China too.
    Pls correct me if I'm wrong.

    How about Java vs Tern/Dahon? Any pro/con?


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    chinese give companies a list of metals to choose from. What companies like dahon and tern do it quality check. Chinese clones, do not and pick only the worse metals.

    common knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziqpy View Post
    quick google showed china, and that brings up red flags for me.
    Pun intended?
    To err is human. To moo is bovine.

    Who is this General Failure anyway, and why is he reading my drive?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ziqpy View Post
    quick google showed china, and that brings up red flags for me.
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    well, that's the color of their national flag so...

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    ok, since many here are against the idea of getting a China local brand bike, I guess I will drop the idea..

    Hope to get comparison of Java vs Tern/Dahon, though.


    cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by guoze View Post
    ok, since many here are against the idea of getting a China local brand bike, I guess I will drop the idea..

    cheers,
    That would be a wise move. Non-Chinese companies that have their products manufactured in China have to follow strict guidelines as set out by the company. Case in point: Epiphone guitars are manufactured in China, but are under the direction and control of Epiphone Musical Instruments in the US, which comes under the umbrella of Gibson US. Now there are guitars made in China that are knock offs of the Gibson-Epiphone models, but I wouldn't touch that garbage with a ten foot pole. I would safely assume that is a similar case with bicycles. Now there are companies in China that make fake Gibson guitars and are sold here in the US as being the genuine product and many people here are being duped into buying these fake instruments thinking they are getting the genuine article. Mind you, these fakes are being sold on non sanctioned Gibson/Epiphone websites. I'm telling you this just in case there are companies that are trying to sell fake Tern or Dahon bikes as examples. Just as in guitars, as long as you purchase from a reputable dealer you will be OK. Just don't entertain purchasing your bike anywhere else. For me, I steer clear of companies on eBay trying to flog what they call genuine products.
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    Thanks for your lengthy explanation, Still Pedaling.
    Now I am seriously considering to get Tern Link P9 (2014) as I love to speed once in a while.

    By the way, just like you all here suggested, I used to have negative standpoint towards China brand. Well you know, clones, weak/lack of quality control, etc.
    It wasn't until recently that I learn of this China brand in mobile phone industry called Xiaomi. Apparently, phones made by this brand are given high recommendation by most users, even ranked well in reviews e.g. CNET. It seems that few China brand are starting to do copy with a twist?
    Sorry, it just came to me as I am considering to get new mobile too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Pedaling View Post
    That would be a wise move. Non-Chinese companies that have their products manufactured in China have to follow strict guidelines as set out by the company. Case in point: Epiphone guitars are manufactured in China, but are under the direction and control of Epiphone Musical Instruments in the US, which comes under the umbrella of Gibson US. Now there are guitars made in China that are knock offs of the Gibson-Epiphone models, but I wouldn't touch that garbage with a ten foot pole. I would safely assume that is a similar case with bicycles. Now there are companies in China that make fake Gibson guitars and are sold here in the US as being the genuine product and many people here are being duped into buying these fake instruments thinking they are getting the genuine article. Mind you, these fakes are being sold on non sanctioned Gibson/Epiphone websites. I'm telling you this just in case there are companies that are trying to sell fake Tern or Dahon bikes as examples. Just as in guitars, as long as you purchase from a reputable dealer you will be OK. Just don't entertain purchasing your bike anywhere else. For me, I steer clear of companies on eBay trying to flog what they call genuine products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guoze View Post
    Thanks for your lengthy explanation, Still Pedaling.
    Now I am seriously considering to get Tern Link P9 (2014) as I love to speed once in a while.

    By the way, just like you all here suggested, I used to have negative standpoint towards China brand. Well you know, clones, weak/lack of quality control, etc.
    It wasn't until recently that I learn of this China brand in mobile phone industry called Xiaomi. Apparently, phones made by this brand are given high recommendation by most users, even ranked well in reviews e.g. CNET. It seems that few China brand are starting to do copy with a twist?
    Sorry, it just came to me as I am considering to get new mobile too.


    cheers,
    The cloning still goes on in making fake items with low to no QC, but, China's production market coupled with advanced technology is coming out with great innovative products. One just has to be aware of the bad side to their industry.
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    I'm not down on China in general. I know we in the music world were jolted when a Chinese manufactured piano bested instruments from Europe, Japan and the USA in a blind test, but after all, China, unlike Europe, Japan and the USA, can put human beings into space. There's junk that comes out of China, but they can also accomplish some pretty impressive stuff when they put their minds to it.

    That said, I know nothing of Crius - their reputation, how long they've been in business, their after sale support in your market, etc. A particular Chinese local brand bike might be fine - I just don't know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Still Pedaling View Post
    I'm telling you this just in case there are companies that are trying to sell fake Tern or Dahon bikes as examples.
    To be clear, Crius seems to be building designs 'inspired' by Dahon. They join a looooong list of companies that do so. Separate and apart from that, it's not 'just in case'. Dahon's intelectual property is very definitely stolen and actual counterfeit Dahons are offered for sale. There are other companies, like FNHon and GeHon, that ride Dahon's reputation and branding with look-alike logos and names.

    Check out this FNHon 'Helios'. It's even painted the same mango color Dahon has used for their speed bikes since the last millennium:

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcs View Post
    I'm not down on China in general. I know we in the music world were jolted when a Chinese manufactured piano bested instruments from Europe, Japan and the USA in a blind test, but after all, China, unlike Europe, Japan and the USA, can put human beings into space. There's junk that comes out of China, but they can also accomplish some pretty impressive stuff when they put their minds to it.

    That said, I know nothing of Crius - their reputation, how long they've been in business, their after sale support in your market, etc. A particular Chinese local brand bike might be fine - I just don't know.



    To be clear, Crius seems to be building designs 'inspired' by Dahon. They join a looooong list of companies that do so. Separate and apart from that, it's not 'just in case'. Dahon's intelectual property is very definitely stolen and actual counterfeit Dahons are offered for sale. There are other companies, like FNHon and GeHon, that ride Dahon's reputation and branding with look-alike logos and names.
    Perhaps it was a typo error. I agree with everything you say but one little point when you mentioned. " . . . China, unlike Europe, Japan and the USA, can put human beings into space." Perhaps you weren't around on July 20th, 1969 when the US landed the first human beings on the moon. It was the Apollo 11 mission. On that mission (July 21st), Neil Armstrong was the first person to step down on the surface of the moon. One of the greatest achievements in human history. "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind", was the first thing he said right after he stepped onto the lunar surface. I sure hope they are teaching kids this stuff in school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Pedaling View Post
    Perhaps it was a typo error.
    English lesson: "Can" is present tense. "Could" is past tense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcs View Post
    English lesson: "Can" is present tense. "Could" is past tense.
    English lesson: Very true, but when you say China "unlike" the USA can put human beings in space, indicates that the USA can't. Perhaps if you had said "like" the USA, simply because the USA did.
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    Not trying to OT this thread,but,the US can put people in space,we just stopped doing it due to budget cutbacks. It should also be noted that we don't need to anymore. Probes and robots can do pretty much every thing we need to do,without a risk to human life or the additional issues of sustaining an environment for living things. Way easier to send probes to Mars than humans.

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    Hey, you cats wanna put your credibility on the line by claiming the USA has a current launch system that's human-capable and the American manned space flight program isn't scrambling right now because the Russians have said they're gonna quite hauling Americans to the ISS (where dynarider appears to claim NASA astronauts don't currently go), go right ahead!
    "When man first set woman on two wheels with a pair of pedals, did he know, I wonder, that he had rent the veil of the harem in twain? A woman on a bicycle has all the world before her where to choose; she can go where she will, no man hindering." The Typewriter Girl, 1899.

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    Call me when there's a flag besides the Stars and Stripes on the moon.

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    As I know,Crius is a sub-brand of Lite-Pro. Its pronounciation sounds like "Cry-us".

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