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    rolling stones-sticky fingers 1971 to be reissued

    been waiting for this for a long time. if it's half as good as the exile on main street remaster a few years ago, i'll be ecstatic.

    The Rolling Stones? Sticky Fingers lives again! | The Rolling Stones
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    It'll never have the same album cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooga-booga View Post
    been waiting for this for a long time. if it's half as good as the exile on main street remaster a few years ago, i'll be ecstatic.

    The Rolling Stones? Sticky Fingers lives again! | The Rolling Stones
    That was a controversial re-master. I wasn't too enthused about re-release re-master no. xxxxxxx quite frankly, and didn't buy a copy right away. As it turns out, the extra tracks were outstanding. I think it's well known that the vocals were re-recorded on certain of those tracks, however. Who knows what else was added to the mix after the fact.

    As far as the original "album," most of the dynamic range was lost as the re-master was LOUD.

    At a certain point, after, say, the 17th re-release or re-master, you can't get quite as fired up, even if they try to "start me up."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam_cyclist View Post
    As far as the original "album," most of the dynamic range was lost as the re-master was LOUD.

    At a certain point, after, say, the 17th re-release or re-master, you can't get quite as fired up, even if they try to "start me up."
    I think I lucked out, I picked out the 2nd round of cds of a bunch, in the early 90s. I was not an early adopter of cds so I waited a bit and got a bunch of Stones cds that were rereleased (and remastered I think) and packaged w/ cloth sleeves inside cardboard cases, LP style. They were better than the 1st round of just slapping the old mixes onto cd but not loudened up like later rounds of remastering. At least that's what I'm told by people who compared them all. Sticky Fingers is pretty much seared into my brain coming off my parents' turntable w/ their speakers though, no new version will sound too different from that to me.

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    first cds i ever bought, one day in 1987:

    - sticky fingers
    - houses of the holy
    - white album
    - wide awake in america

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschlwc View Post
    first cds i ever bought, one day in 1987:

    - sticky fingers
    - houses of the holy
    - white album
    - wide awake in america
    I received my 1st cds for xmas in 1987: Warren Zevon, Robbie Robertson, Mike Oldfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genec View Post
    It'll never have the same album cover.
    Nothing ever will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leob1 View Post
    Nothing ever will.
    I know... those were works of art... what we get now on CDs is nothing compared to the old album covers. And if you are downloading itunes or MP3s... Nothing at all like the old albums... some of which, like "Sticky Fingers" were quite original.

    It would be nice if even MP3/itunes used animated art... but I have not seen one like that yet... and even so, you'd be viewing it on a postage stamp screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genec View Post
    It'll never have the same album cover.
    not true. read the release link in op.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genec View Post
    ... and even so, you'd be viewing it on a postage stamp screen.
    ...and listening with dime size speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    I think I lucked out, I picked out the 2nd round of cds of a bunch, in the early 90s. I was not an early adopter of cds so I waited a bit and got a bunch of Stones cds that were rereleased (and remastered I think) and packaged w/ cloth sleeves inside cardboard cases, LP style. They were better than the 1st round of just slapping the old mixes onto cd but not loudened up like later rounds of remastering. At least that's what I'm told by people who compared them all. Sticky Fingers is pretty much seared into my brain coming off my parents' turntable w/ their speakers though, no new version will sound too different from that to me.
    For digital, looks like the 80's releases of Sticky Fingers have the greatest dynamic range. Of course DR is not the only SQ factor.
    Album list - Dynamic Range Database

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    Quote Originally Posted by noisebeam View Post
    not true. read the release link in op.
    Good point... looks like they are releasing the music in every form possible... including LP... whoo hoo!

    I miss good album art... I still have some 6+ linear feet of vinyl... and yes, a turntable.

    No, I am not some sort of audiophile that believes the only way to enjoy music is via an analog format with a moving diamond needle and tube amplifiers... but some older music just never made the jump to CD; I don't feel like buying it again, and frankly I miss album art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
    ...and listening with dime size speakers.
    True.

    Every now and then I like to throw open all the doors and windows and turn up the volume on the big amp and really enjoy some classic rock and roll... with BIG SPEAKERS!

    I prefer at least CD quality or better sound for these moments... MP3s, while nice and portable, leave a bit to be desired when it comes to good music dynamics... cymbal crashes and big bass drums just don't seem to have the same punch on MP3s, or with dime sized speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam_cyclist View Post
    That was a controversial re-master. I wasn't too enthused about re-release re-master no. xxxxxxx quite frankly, and didn't buy a copy right away. As it turns out, the extra tracks were outstanding. I think it's well known that the vocals were re-recorded on certain of those tracks, however. Who knows what else was added to the mix after the fact.

    As far as the original "album," most of the dynamic range was lost as the re-master was LOUD.


    At a certain point, after, say, the 17th re-release or re-master, you can't get quite as fired up, even if they try to "start me up."
    if any classic 70's album needed a solid remaster, it was exile. the original was "muddy" and for the stones, that's saying something.
    sure, the original "muddiness" gave the whole presentation a certain authenticity given the circumstances in which the album was recorded
    along with the lyrical content...not to mention the mental/physical state of the principal songwriters/performers. the remaster brought out
    buried content along with some outstanding unreleased tracks ("plundered my soul" alone is worth the price of (re)admission). any dynamic range
    the original album possessed on vinyl, 8-track, cassette or cd (yes...had all 4) was overwhelmed by the remaster. a masterful job. i'll take
    the remaster for charlie's drums, bill's bass and the nuances of mick taylor's playing which were mostly buried. you can keep the original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ooga-booga View Post
    if any classic 70's album needed a solid remaster, it was exile. the original was "muddy" and for the stones, that's saying something.
    sure, the original "muddiness" gave the whole presentation a certain authenticity given the circumstances in which the album was recorded
    along with the lyrical content...not to mention the mental/physical state of the principal songwriters/performers. the remaster brought out
    buried content along with some outstanding unreleased tracks ("plundered my soul" alone is worth the price of (re)admission). any dynamic range
    the original album possessed on vinyl, 8-track, cassette or cd (yes...had all 4) was overwhelmed by the remaster. a masterful job. i'll take
    the remaster for charlie's drums, bill's bass and the nuances of mick taylor's playing which were mostly buried. you can keep the original.
    It wasn't "remastered." The dynamic range was eliminated and everything was re-mastered to be LOUD. That's not the point of a re-master. It should simply reveal as much information as exists on the master tapes. There was no "buried content" that was brought out. It was just made far louder than intended.

    As far as the unreleased tracks, they're fantastic. But new vocal tracks were recorded and some new instrumental work was added as well after the fact. Nothing wrong with that, but they're essentially new songs. They're great though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genec View Post
    I know... those were works of art... what we get now on CDs is nothing compared to the old album covers. And if you are downloading itunes or MP3s... Nothing at all like the old albums... some of which, like "Sticky Fingers" were quite original.

    It would be nice if even MP3/itunes used animated art... but I have not seen one like that yet... and even so, you'd be viewing it on a postage stamp screen.
    I remember sitting on the bed, or on my floor just staring at the album covers. Looking at the art, the pictures, the layouts, the lyrics... it was an experience that made the whole album an experience.

    And speaking of Houses of The Holy, there's those seeds that are in my gatefold sleeve for some reason...
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    Quote Originally Posted by genec View Post
    I know... those were works of art... what we get now on CDs is nothing compared to the old album covers. And if you are downloading itunes or MP3s... Nothing at all like the old albums... some of which, like "Sticky Fingers" were quite original.

    It would be nice if even MP3/itunes used animated art... but I have not seen one like that yet... and even so, you'd be viewing it on a postage stamp screen.
    Some new music is coming out on vinyl, including some special issues like this Ohio shaped red vinyl from 21 Pilots - to be released Saturday
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